COnstant acceleration - stone in a well

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the depth of a well based on the time it takes for a stone to fall and the sound of the splash to return. The scenario is set within the context of constant acceleration and sound propagation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the time taken for the stone to fall and the time for the sound to travel back, questioning how to relate these two components to find the depth of the well.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on setting up equations based on the constraints of the problem, while others are exploring the relationships between the variables involved. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity due to multiple unknowns and constraints.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there are three unknowns (time for the stone to reach the bottom, time for sound to travel, and depth of the well) and three constraints that must be considered in the analysis.

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Homework Statement



You drop a stone down into a well to find the depth of the well. You hear the sound of the splash 3.5 s after you let the stone go.



Homework Equations



s(displacement)=v_0t \cdot \frac 12 at^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I have
t_{total}=3.5 s

Stone: v_0=0, and a=9.81 m/s^2.

Sound: v=340 m/s, a=0.

If the sound had not used a small part of the total time, the answer would have been:

s(displacement)=v_0t \cdot \frac 12 at^2=0*3.5 s + \frac 12 * 9.81 m/s^2*(3.5s)^2=60 m

But the answer key of my book says 55 m. I see why, but I don't know how I can get that answer... Please help, anybody out there!
 
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basically in this question there is 3 unknowns and 3 constraints

3 unknowns
- time for rock to reach bottom of well
- time for sound to travel out of the well
- depth of well

3 constrants
- time takes to reach the bottom of the well and depth of the well is related to the equation you used
- time taken for sound to travel out of the well follows a simple s = vt relationship
- total time is 3.5s

can you see how to solve this now?
 
Hmmm, not quite sure. Depth of well, s, is the same both when the stone and the sound travels it.

Sound: s(displacement)= vt = 340m/s *t_{sound}

Stone:

s(displacement)=v_0t\cdot \frac 12 at^2=0∗(3.5s-t_{sound}) +\frac 12 ∗ 9.81m/s^2 ∗ (3.5s-t_{sound})^2=0+12∗9.81m/s^2∗(3.5s-t_{sound})^2=12∗9.81m/s^2∗(3.5s-t_{sound})^2.

I can relate these two equations to each other: 340m/s *t_{sound}=12∗9.81m/s^2∗(3.5s-t_{sound})^2 and solve this equation for t_{sound}. Am I on the right track now?
 
looks like you are :)
 
That was right :)

Thanks a lot !
 
glad to help :biggrin:
 

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