Constant Breaking force for roller coaster

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The discussion focuses on calculating the constant braking force required to stop a 12,000-kg roller coaster at point B, which is 0 m high, after descending from a height of 95 m. Participants emphasize the importance of applying the Conservation of Energy principle to determine the roller coaster's speed at the bottom of the hill before braking. The relevant equations include Newton's second law (Force = Mass x Acceleration) and kinematic equations to find acceleration and distance traveled. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in understanding the problem statement and the correct application of physics concepts.

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  • Understanding of Conservation of Energy principles
  • Familiarity with Newton's second law of motion
  • Knowledge of kinematic equations
  • Basic grasp of work-energy concepts
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  • Learn how to apply the Conservation of Energy formula in practical scenarios
  • Study kinematic equations in-depth, particularly for motion under constant acceleration
  • Explore the relationship between work and energy in mechanical systems
  • Practice problems involving forces and motion, specifically in roller coaster dynamics
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I really don't understand this:

Consider a frictionless, 12000-kg roller coaster that starts at rest at the top of a hill, point A, 95 m high. It goes all the way the 75 degree steep hill and coasts horizontally (for an unspecified distance) before reaching point B (0 m high). The entire ride lasts 10 seconds and breaks engage with a constant force during last 4 seconds. Calculate:

a) the constant breaking force that must be applied to bring the roller coaster to a stop at point B.

b) the work being done by breaks to bring the roller coaster to a stop at point B.


I don't understand the question at all. The wording is weird. How would I start this? I have no clue what so ever.
 
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rexorsist said:
I really don't understand this:

Consider a frictionless, 12000-kg roller coaster that starts at rest at the top of a hill, point A, 95 m high. It goes all the way (down?) the 75 degree steep hill and coasts horizontally (for an unspecified distance) before reaching point B (0 m high). The entire ride lasts 10 seconds and breaks engage with a constant force during last 4 seconds. Calculate:

a) the constant breaking force that must be applied to bring the roller coaster to a stop at point B.

b) the work being done by breaks to bring the roller coaster to a stop at point B.


I don't understand the question at all. The wording is weird. How would I start this? I have no clue what so ever.
Except for the misspelling of "brakes" and "braking", the description is quite clear.

Do you know about:

Conservation of Energy?

Work?

Newton's 2nd law?

Kinematic equations?

etc.
 
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SammyS said:
Except for the misspelling of "brakes" and "braking", the description is quite clear.

Do you know about:

Conservation of Energy?

Work?

Newton's 2nd law?

Kinematic equations?

etc.

Yup, I know those equations.

I know that first we're going to figure out the distance down the slope. I used the sin law to figure out the length. Then I'm going to use the first kinematic equations (V2=V1+AxT , where V2 equals final velocity, V1 equals initial velocity, A equals acceleration, T equals time). Once I solve for acceleration, I would then use the Force = Mass x Acceleration formula to solve for the force required for the break.

Would I be able to find the correct answer using this method?

Thank you so much for your help!
 
rexorsist said:
Yup, I know those equations.

I know that first we're going to figure out the distance down the slope. I used the sin law to figure out the length. Then I'm going to use the first kinematic equations (V2=V1+AxT , where V2 equals final velocity, V1 equals initial velocity, A equals acceleration, T equals time). Once I solve for acceleration, I would then use the Force = Mass x Acceleration formula to solve for the force required for the break.

Would I be able to find the correct answer using this method?

Thank you so much for your help!
You should be able to use Conservation of Energy to find the speed of the roller coaster at the bottom of the hill, before braking.
 
SammyS said:
You should be able to use Conservation of Energy to find the speed of the roller coaster at the bottom of the hill, before braking.

How would I use the Conservation of Energy formula?

If the equation is ET=1/2(mass)(Velocity squared) + (mass)(gravity)(height)

Would I assume height to be zero? Or would it be 95m?

EDIT: I know I would isolate Velocity Squared.
 
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Please someone! I need urgent help. I need to know how to do this before tomorrow. I am begging.
 
rexorsist said:
How would I use the Conservation of Energy formula?

If the equation is ET=1/2(mass)(Velocity squared) + (mass)(gravity)(height)

Would I assume height to be zero? Or would it be 95m?
You look at the total energy at the top and at the bottom of the slope.
 
rexorsist said:
I really don't understand this:

Consider a frictionless, 12000-kg roller coaster that starts at rest at the top of a hill, point A, 95 m high. It goes all the way the 75 degree steep hill and coasts horizontally (for an unspecified distance) before reaching point B (0 m high). The entire ride lasts 10 seconds and breaks engage with a constant force during last 4 seconds. Calculate:

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rexorsist said:
How would I use the Conservation of Energy formula?

If the equation is ET=1/2(mass)(Velocity squared) + (mass)(gravity)(height)

Would I assume height to be zero? Or would it be 95m?

EDIT: I know I would isolate Velocity Squared.
There is a starting height and an ending height.

...
 

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