Constants of motion in quantum mechanics

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SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on identifying the constants of motion for a particle of mass m and spin s subjected to a central potential defined by V(r). The constants of motion established include the angular momentum operators hat{L}_z, hat{L}^2, the Hamiltonian hat{H}, and the spin operator hat{S_z}. The analysis utilizes Ehrenfest's theorem to demonstrate that these observables commute with the Hamiltonian, confirming their status as constants of motion. Additionally, the discussion clarifies that hat{S}^2 is also a constant of motion, though it is often omitted in practical applications.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of quantum mechanics principles, specifically central potentials.
  • Familiarity with Ehrenfest's theorem and its application in quantum systems.
  • Knowledge of angular momentum operators in quantum mechanics, including hat{L}_z and hat{L}^2.
  • Concept of spin in quantum mechanics, particularly for particles with spin-1/2.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the implications of Ehrenfest's theorem in various quantum systems.
  • Explore the role of spin in quantum mechanics, focusing on spin operators and their commutation relations.
  • Investigate the mathematical formulation of central potentials and their applications in quantum mechanics.
  • Learn about the significance of observables and their commutation properties in quantum mechanics.
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This discussion is beneficial for quantum mechanics students, physicists specializing in theoretical physics, and researchers focusing on quantum systems with spin and central potentials.

Dario SLC

Homework Statement


A particle of mass m and spin s, it's subject at next central potential:
##
\begin{equation*}
V(\mathbf{r})=
\begin{cases}
0\text{ r<a}\\
V_0\text{ a<r<b}\\
0\text{ r>b}
\end{cases}
\end{equation*}
##
Find the constants of motion of the system and the set of observables that commute.

Homework Equations


Ehrenfest's theorem
##\frac{\partial \left<\hat A\right>}{\partial t}=\frac{i}{\hbar}\left<[\hat H,\hat A]\right>+\left<\frac{\partial\hat A}{\partial t}\right>## when ##\hat A## it is an any observable.

The Attempt at a Solution


Because of that it's a problem of central potential, like hydrogen atom, ##\hat{L}_z## and ##\hat{L}^2## commute with hamiltonian ##\hat{H}##, and not depend explicity of the time, them are constant of motion (for the Ehrenfest's theorem), similar the hamiltonian because only depend of r coordinate and ##[\hat{H},\hat{H}]=0##. But the system has spin, therefore it add other degree of freedom, ie the system has four degree of freedom (if have'nt spin, only three degree of freedom), then the wave function will be:
$$
\psi(r,\theta,\phi,m_s)=R(r)Y_{lm}(\theta,\phi)g(m_s)
$$
when ##g(m_s)## will be ##\alpha## or ##\beta## corresponding at spin up or spin down respectly.

Like the operator ##S_z## corresponding to the observable relative to proyection about z-axis for the momentum of spin, it commute with hamiltonian, because it do not depends of ##m_s##.

Therefore, the constants of motion will be:
$$
\hat{L}_z\text{, }\hat{L}^2\text{, }\hat{H}\text{ and } \hat{S_z}
$$

On the other hand, these constants they are a set of observables that commute.

It is fine?

In addition, why isn't ##\hat{S}^2## a constant of motion?, this will have to do with the fact of that s=1/2, and no option to choose, therefore ##S^2## it is not a constant of motion?
 
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Dario SLC said:
On the other hand, these constants they are a set of observables that commute.

It is fine?
It should be fine.
Dario SLC said:
In addition, why isn't ^S2S^2\hat{S}^2 a constant of motion?, this will have to do with the fact of that s=1/2, and no option to choose, therefore S2S2S^2 it is not a constant of motion?
##\hat S^2## is also a constant of motion. It's, however, usually omitted in the notation of the eigenfunction because one typically only deals with one type of particle in such type of problem.
 

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