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The problem involves constructing a matrix whose nullspace consists of all linear combinations of the vectors (2,2,1,0) and (3,1,0,1). The context is linear algebra, specifically focusing on nullspaces and orthogonality in vector spaces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the theoretical understanding of finding a matrix that results in the zero vector when multiplied by specific vectors. There is mention of needing to construct a 4x4 matrix and considerations about free variables and the nature of the subspace formed by the given vectors.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the problem and explore potential methods for constructing the matrix. Some participants suggest the need for orthogonality conditions and the use of row operations, while others express uncertainty about the specific steps to take next.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not explicitly state the dimensions of the matrix, leading to assumptions about it being 4x4. There is also a recognition that the nullspace is defined by the span of the two given vectors, which raises questions about the implications for the matrix's rows.

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Homework Statement


Construct a matrix whose nullspace consists of all combinations of (2,2,1,0) and (3,1,0,1).

Apparently, the answer is:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i={{1,0,-2,-3},{0,1,-2,-1}}

Homework Equations


Ax = b (where x and b are vectors and A is a matrix) (in this case, b = 0)

The Attempt at a Solution


As I understand it, I am supposed to find a matrix that, when multiplied with any vector in a certain vector space, I get b = 0. Assuming that I am right theoretically, I need help to continue from here in practice.

Any help in figuring out how to do this problem would be greatly appreciated!
 
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s3a said:

Homework Statement


Construct a matrix whose nullspace consists of all combinations of (2,2,1,0) and (3,1,0,1).

Apparently, the answer is:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i={{1,0,-2,-3},{0,1,-2,-1}}

Homework Equations


Ax = b (where x and b are vectors and A is a matrix) (in this case, b = 0)

The Attempt at a Solution


As I understand it, I am supposed to find a matrix that, when multiplied with any vector in a certain vector space, I get b = 0. Assuming that I am right theoretically, I need help to continue from here in practice.

Any help in figuring out how to do this problem would be greatly appreciated!

Recall that the nullspace is the span of a set of vectors (i.e those two vectors you have there ) and since your vectors are in ℝ4, you know you have at least 2 free variables right?
 


s3a said:

Homework Statement


Construct a matrix whose nullspace consists of all combinations of (2,2,1,0) and (3,1,0,1).

Apparently, the answer is:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i={{1,0,-2,-3},{0,1,-2,-1}}

Homework Equations


Ax = b (where x and b are vectors and A is a matrix) (in this case, b = 0)

The Attempt at a Solution


As I understand it, I am supposed to find a matrix that, when multiplied with any vector in a certain vector space, I get b = 0. Assuming that I am right theoretically, I need help to continue from here in practice.
To be more specific, you want to construct a matrix that maps any linear combination of <2,2,1,0> and <3,1,0,1> to the zero vector. Presumably the matrix is 4 x 4, but that doesn't seem to be stated in your problem. These two vectors form a subspace of R4, not an entire vector space.


s3a said:
Any help in figuring out how to do this problem would be greatly appreciated!
 


Recall that the nullspace is the span of a set of vectors (i.e those two vectors you have there ) and since your vectors are in ℝ4, you know you have at least 2 free variables right?
Yes, I do. :)

To be more specific, you want to construct a matrix that maps any linear combination of <2,2,1,0> and <3,1,0,1> to the zero vector. Presumably the matrix is 4 x 4, but that doesn't seem to be stated in your problem. These two vectors form a subspace of R4, not an entire vector space.
The answer is this: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...C-2,-1}}

What was done, though? Did they take the vectors and make them row vectors and then perform some row operations? If so, which vector got placed in which row and, what are the row operations that were performed?
 


s3a said:
Yes, I do. :)


The answer is this: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...C-2,-1}}

What was done, though? Did they take the vectors and make them row vectors and then perform some row operations? If so, which vector got placed in which row and, what are the row operations that were performed?

I would create a 4 x 4 matrix with entries a through p. Use it to multiply your two given vectors to get the 4 x 2 zero matrix. Carry out the multiplication to get 8 equations in 16 unknowns.

I haven't worked the problem, but this is how I would start it.
 


If a=(2,2,1,0) and b=(3,1,0,1) then every row r of your matrix has to be orthogonal to a and b. So it has to satisfy r.a=0 and r.b=0. It's in the orthogonal subspace to the subspace spanned by a and b. Get two linearly independent solutions to those equations and use them for the rows of the matrix.
 

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