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The discussion revolves around a matrix U represented in upper triangular form, with specific entries denoted as a, b, c, d, e, and f. The problem requires showing that if certain entries (a, d, f) are nonzero, the only solution to the equation Ux = 0 is the trivial solution x = 0, indicating that the columns of the matrix are independent.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the nonzero entries in the matrix and how they relate to the solutions of the equation Ux = 0. There is confusion regarding the setup and the dimensions of the vectors involved, with some participants attempting to derive the equations from the matrix form.

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The conversation has progressed with participants identifying the implications of setting certain variables to zero based on the matrix structure. There is acknowledgment of confusion, but also a movement towards understanding the relationship between the matrix entries and the solution space.

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Some participants note discrepancies in the dimensions of the vectors and the equations derived from the matrix, indicating a need for clarification on the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Matrix U is the following matrix:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i={{a,b,c},{0,d,e},{0,0,f}}

Question:
If a, d, f are all nonzero, show that the only solution to Ux = 0 is x = 0. Then the upper triangular matrix U has independent columns.

The solution says:
xcomplete = xparticular + xhomogeneous = (1/2,0,1/2,0) + x2 (-3,1,0,0) + x4(0,0,-2,1)

Homework Equations


xcomplete = xparticular + xhomogeneous

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm very confused; I'm not sure where to start.

Any help in figuring out what I need to do would be really appreciated!
 
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s3a said:

Homework Statement


Matrix U is the following matrix:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i={{a,b,c},{0,d,e},{0,0,f}}

Question:
If a, d, f are all nonzero, show that the only solution to Ux = 0 is x = 0. Then the upper triangular matrix U has independent columns.

The solution says:
xcomplete = xparticular + xhomogeneous = (1/2,0,1/2,0) + x2 (-3,1,0,0) + x4(0,0,-2,1)

Homework Equations


xcomplete = xparticular + xhomogeneous

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm very confused; I'm not sure where to start.

Any help in figuring out what I need to do would be really appreciated!

Write out the equations that correspond to Ux=0, putting x=(x1,x2,x3). I think the solution you quoted is for a different problem. U is 3x3 and the solution has four dimensional vectors in it.
 


Oh, oops.

Ux = 0

{{a,b,c},{0,d,e},{0,0,f}} {{x_1},{x_2},{x_3}} = {{0},{0},{0}}

I can see how this gives z = 0 (since f is the nonzero coefficient of in fz = 0) but, I'm confused for the rest.
 


s3a said:
Oh, oops.

Ux = 0

{{a,b,c},{0,d,e},{0,0,f}} {{x_1},{x_2},{x_3}} = {{0},{0},{0}}

I can see how this gives z = 0 (since f is the nonzero coefficient of in fz = 0) but, I'm confused for the rest.

Put z=0 into the other equations. What do they become?
 


Oops. I now see that x = y = z = 0. :)

So, because x = y = z or x_1 = x_2 = x_3 (depending on the notation chosen) shows that the vector x = 0 and the problem is solved, right?
 


s3a said:
Oops. I now see that x = y = z = 0. :)

So, because x = y = z or x_1 = x_2 = x_3 (depending on the notation chosen) shows that the vector x = 0 and the problem is solved, right?

Yes.
 


Yay. :)

Thanks.
 

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