Constructing a Bending Moment Function Using McCauley's Method

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around constructing a bending moment function for a beam using McCauley's method. Participants explore the calculation of deflection equations based on given forces and support locations, focusing on the integration of moment expressions and the determination of constants of integration.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a beam setup and requests assistance in finding the deflection equation, noting discrepancies in their results.
  • Another participant suggests posting calculations to identify potential mistakes in the deflection calculations.
  • A participant details their approach of splitting the beam into sections and calculating moments, expressing uncertainty about the correctness of their integration and constants.
  • Several participants emphasize the need to construct the bending moment function in a piece-wise manner, specifically referencing McCauley's method as a suitable approach.
  • Concerns are raised about the number of constants of integration, with participants noting that only two constants should be used based on boundary conditions.
  • Participants provide feedback on the integration process and suggest adjustments to the bending moment function construction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for a piece-wise construction of the bending moment function and the importance of correctly determining constants of integration. However, there is no consensus on the specific calculations or results, as some participants express uncertainty about their methods and outcomes.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential errors in the initial calculations presented by participants, as well as the complexity of integrating moment expressions across different sections of the beam. The discussion does not resolve these issues definitively.

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I have A beam of 1.2 m long, supports at 0m and 0.8 m. forces of 10 N at 0.4 m and 5N at 1.2 m I need to find the deflection equation for this situation. Can someone have a look and see if they can come up with the equation. As I have tried but my results do not match what I am expecting
 
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James20 said:
I have A beam of 1.2 m long, supports at 0m and 0.8 m. forces of 10 N at 0.4 m and 5N at 1.2 m I need to find the deflection equation for this situation. Can someone have a look and see if they can come up with the equation. As I have tried but my results do not match what I am expecting

Why don't you post your calculations? You may have made some mistakes in calculating deflections for this beam.
 
I split the beam into 3 sections and found the moments acting at each section so section on 2.5 x second section -7.5x and the last section 5x I then integrated twice for each section and got 5/12x^3 +c1x + c2
5/4x^3 +c3x +c4 and 5/6x^3 + c5x + c6 all equal to yEI. Does what I have done so far seem right to you because all I did next was find the constants and if this part isn't right then if my constants are wrong it won't matter as it's all wrong
Cheers
 
James20 said:
I split the beam into 3 sections and found the moments acting at each section so section on 2.5 x second section -7.5x and the last section 5x

You have found some of the parts of the moment expression, but these parts act over limited portions of the beam.

For instance, starting at the first support, M(x) = 2.5 x, for 0 ≤ x ≤ 0.4 m
Similarly, the next part, M(x) = -7.5 x for 0.4 < x ≤ 0.8 m
Finally, M(x) = 5 x for 0.8 < x ≤ 1.2 m

You've got to write the bending moment function is such a way that all of the segments of the bending moment curve are treated together. This is difficult to do with regular algebra, but there are special ways to construct a bending moment function in a piece-wise manner. McCauley's method is one such procedure:

http://www.codecogs.com/library/engineering/materials/beams/macaulay-method.php

I then integrated twice for each section and got 5/12x^3 +c1x + c2
5/4x^3 +c3x +c4 and 5/6x^3 + c5x + c6 all equal to yEI.

You've wound up with too many constants of integration. When you integrate the moment equation to find the slope, you'll generate one constant of integration. When you integrate the slope equation to find the deflection, you'll generate another constant of integration as follows:

M(x) = bending moment as a function of position x

Θ(x) = slope as a function of position x

y(x) = deflection as a function of position x

Θ(x) = ∫ M(x) dx = Θ(x) + C1

y(x) = ∫ Θ(x) dx = ∫ [Θ(x) + C1] dx = ∫∫ M(x) dx dx + C1 * x + C2

The boundary conditions for this beam are that the deflection = 0 at the two supports, so you can have at most two constants of integration.

Does what I have done so far seem right to you because all I did next was find the constants and if this part isn't right then if my constants are wrong it won't matter as it's all wrong
Cheers

You're on the right track. You just have to make some adjustments in how you construct the bending moment function and then integrate it.
 
SteamKing said:
You have found some of the parts of the moment expression, but these parts act over limited portions of the beam.

For instance, starting at the first support, M(x) = 2.5 x, for 0 ≤ x ≤ 0.4 m
Similarly, the next part, M(x) = -7.5 x for 0.4 < x ≤ 0.8 m
Finally, M(x) = 5 x for 0.8 < x ≤ 1.2 m

You've got to write the bending moment function is such a way that all of the segments of the bending moment curve are treated together. This is difficult to do with regular algebra, but there are special ways to construct a bending moment function in a piece-wise manner. McCauley's method is one such procedure:

http://www.codecogs.com/library/engineering/materials/beams/macaulay-method.php
You've wound up with too many constants of integration. When you integrate the moment equation to find the slope, you'll generate one constant of integration. When you integrate the slope equation to find the deflection, you'll generate another constant of integration as follows:

M(x) = bending moment as a function of position x

Θ(x) = slope as a function of position x

y(x) = deflection as a function of position x

Θ(x) = ∫ M(x) dx = Θ(x) + C1

y(x) = ∫ Θ(x) dx = ∫ [Θ(x) + C1] dx = ∫∫ M(x) dx dx + C1 * x + C2

The boundary conditions for this beam are that the deflection = 0 at the two supports, so you can have at most two constants of integration.
You're on the right track. You just have to make some adjustments in how you construct the bending moment function and then integrate it.
Thank you i will give it another go
 
SteamKing said:
You have found some of the parts of the moment expression, but these parts act over limited portions of the beam.

For instance, starting at the first support, M(x) = 2.5 x, for 0 ≤ x ≤ 0.4 m
Similarly, the next part, M(x) = -7.5 x for 0.4 < x ≤ 0.8 m
Finally, M(x) = 5 x for 0.8 < x ≤ 1.2 m

You've got to write the bending moment function is such a way that all of the segments of the bending moment curve are treated together. This is difficult to do with regular algebra, but there are special ways to construct a bending moment function in a piece-wise manner. McCauley's method is one such procedure:

http://www.codecogs.com/library/engineering/materials/beams/macaulay-method.php
You've wound up with too many constants of integration. When you integrate the moment equation to find the slope, you'll generate one constant of integration. When you integrate the slope equation to find the deflection, you'll generate another constant of integration as follows:

M(x) = bending moment as a function of position x

Θ(x) = slope as a function of position x

y(x) = deflection as a function of position x

Θ(x) = ∫ M(x) dx = Θ(x) + C1

y(x) = ∫ Θ(x) dx = ∫ [Θ(x) + C1] dx = ∫∫ M(x) dx dx + C1 * x + C2

The boundary conditions for this beam are that the deflection = 0 at the two supports, so you can have at most two constants of integration.
You're on the right track. You just have to make some adjustments in how you construct the bending moment function and then integrate it.
Thank managed to get the answer thanks to yoir help
 

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