Constructive/Destructive Interference

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The problem involves a scenario where a driver crosses the line connecting two radio transmitters, receiving signals that can interfere constructively or destructively. The key aspects include determining the longest possible wavelength of the radio waves and calculating the time until the next minimum signal after passing a specific point.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for the wavelength and the conditions for destructive interference. There is an exploration of the geometry involved in the problem, particularly the use of right triangles to relate distances from the transmitters to the car's position.

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Some participants have attempted to set up equations based on the distances from the transmitters and the wavelength. There is ongoing dialogue about the algebraic manipulation needed to solve for the distance from point A to the minimum signal point. Questions about the accuracy of calculations and the implications of the car's speed are also being raised.

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Participants mention constraints such as the use of specific calculators and the requirement for significant digits in their answers. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in the algebraic steps taken to arrive at a solution.

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Homework Statement



A person driving at v = 15 m/s crosses the line connecting two radio transmitters at right angles, as shown in the figure (d1 = 300 m and d2 = 100 m). The transmitters emit identical signals in phase with each other, which the driver receives on the car radio. When the car is at point A the radio picks up a maximum net signal.

The image: http://www.webassign.net/walker/28-31alt.gif
(a) What is the longest possible wavelength of the radio waves?
(b) How long after the car passes point A does the radio experience a minimum in the net signal? Assume that the wavelength has the value found in part (a).

Homework Equations


l2 - l1 = (m-1/2)(lambda)

The Attempt at a Solution


For part a I got 200 m.

Part B is where I have a problem. I know I need to get the vertical distance and use v = 15 m/s to find the time. Using triangles formed by connecting the vertical distance x to each radio transmitter I have made l2 = (x^2+100^2)^(1/2) and l1 = (x^2 + 300^2)^(1/2). When I subtract both of them and make them equal to 1/2lambda my x's cancel out, :-(.
 
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yayirunin2car said:

Homework Statement



A person driving at v = 15 m/s crosses the line connecting two radio transmitters at right angles, as shown in the figure (d1 = 300 m and d2 = 100 m). The transmitters emit identical signals in phase with each other, which the driver receives on the car radio. When the car is at point A the radio picks up a maximum net signal.

The image: http://www.webassign.net/walker/28-31alt.gif
(a) What is the longest possible wavelength of the radio waves?
(b) How long after the car passes point A does the radio experience a minimum in the net signal? Assume that the wavelength has the value found in part (a).

Homework Equations


l2 - l1 = (m-1/2)(lambda)

The Attempt at a Solution


For part a I got 200 m.

Part B is where I have a problem. I know I need to get the vertical distance and use v = 15 m/s to find the time. Using triangles formed by connecting the vertical distance x to each radio transmitter I have made l2 = (x^2+100^2)^(1/2) and l1 = (x^2 + 300^2)^(1/2). When I subtract both of them and make them equal to 1/2lambda my x's cancel out, :-(.

First I would note the X2's are part of RSS's and I don't think they exactly cancel out.
But that said ... if the car wasn't moving how long before the next minimum would arrive?
How far could the car have moved in that time at 15 m/s?
How accurate does your answer need to be?
How many digits of precision does your calculator have?
 
I only need up to 4 significant digits. We're only allowed to use a one-line calculator on exams so I have my Ti-89 at home and using the Ti-30Xa for my homework. I guess my problem is somewhere in my algebra?
 
yayirunin2car said:
I only need up to 4 significant digits. We're only allowed to use a one-line calculator on exams so I have my Ti-89 at home and using the Ti-30Xa for my homework. I guess my problem is somewhere in my algebra?

Have you figured yet how far the car could have traveled when the minimum reaches where the car was?
 
No, I have not.

I still haven't found how many meters away from point A the minimum is. So far I have set up:
(100^2 + x^2)^(1/2) - (300^2 + x^2)^(1/2) = (1/2)(200)

When I solve it by hand I can't get x.
 
yayirunin2car said:
No, I have not.

I still haven't found how many meters away from point A the minimum is. So far I have set up:
(100^2 + x^2)^(1/2) - (300^2 + x^2)^(1/2) = (1/2)(200)

When I solve it by hand I can't get x.

Well the destructive points of interference are given by what?

EDIT: Won't you need to be at a point where the increases in the hypotenuses will create a 180 out of phase with the arriving waves?
 
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