Contour Integrals: Transforming & Residue Theorem

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The discussion revolves around contour integrals, specifically the application of the residue theorem to integrals of real functions transformed into the complex plane. Participants explore the implications of using different contours and how they affect the evaluation of integrals, particularly focusing on the integral of a sinusoidal function over a specified interval.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of various contours in complex integration and question how the choice of contour influences the result of the integral. There is a focus on understanding the relationship between poles, contours, and the evaluation of integrals, with some participants expressing confusion about the consistency of results across different contours.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants actively questioning assumptions about contour selection and its impact on integral evaluation. Some guidance is provided regarding the residue theorem and the nature of meromorphic functions, but there is no explicit consensus on the implications of using different contours.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of integrating sinusoidal functions and the potential for different contours to yield varying results, raising questions about the assumptions underlying the use of the residue theorem in these contexts.

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You can do integrals of real functions like:

[itex]\oint[/itex]1/(3-sinθ) by transforming to a complex contour, which enloses the origin, and then using the residue theorem. Normally you would transform to the unit circle, but in principal you could use any contour (right?). Now, sometimes you find that some rediues are inside the unit circle and some are not. If you picked a difference contour this could be changed. However, the integral above must give the same for every contour, so what is it that still makes the complex integrals give the same (even though different contours are involved.)
 
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the integral above must give the same for every contour
No, that's not true, for exactly the reason you said. The integral depends on which poles of the function are inside the contour. What is true is that you can find a specific definite integral by finding a contour that includes the interval of integration. The integral over that interval will be constant while the integral over the entire contour and the integral over the rest of the contour vary- there difference being the constant.
 
hmm I might need you to repeat that for me. Say we have some kind of sinusoidal function that is to be integrated from [0;2[itex]\pi[/itex]]. There are infinitely many contours in the complex plane that encloses the origin and they may well have different poles inside them. How do you then know which of those will give the correct value for the real valued integral of the sinusoidal function? I always did the unit circle (easiest!) but guessing the others will be just as good, it is weird that they would yield different results for the integral.
Or is that exactly what compensates for the fact that when you substitute [itex]\theta[/itex] = [itex]\theta[/itex](z) you will get different expressions for sin([itex]\theta[/itex]) as a function of z? For instance sin[itex]\theta[/itex] = 1/(2i)(z/r + r/z) for the general substitution z=rexp(i[itex]\theta[/itex])
 
aaaa202 said:
You can do integrals of real functions like:

[itex]\oint[/itex]1/(3-sinθ) by transforming to a complex contour, which enloses the origin, and then using the residue theorem. Normally you would transform to the unit circle, but in principal you could use any contour (right?). Now, sometimes you find that some rediues are inside the unit circle and some are not. If you picked a difference contour this could be changed. However, the integral above must give the same for every contour, so what is it that still makes the complex integrals give the same (even though different contours are involved.)

You havin' trouble understanding that. The basis of the principle is the Residue Theorem: the integral of a meromorphic function (an analytic function with poles) over a closed contour is equal to 2pi i times the sum of the enclosed residues. Now, that's what's not going to change no matter what the contour is, big, small, circle, square, triangle. So you're referring to a real integral like:

[tex]\int_0^{2\pi} \frac{1}{3-\sin(t)}dt[/tex]

Now, the easiest thing to do is to let [itex]z=e^{it}[/itex] but you could let [itex]z=5e^{it}[/itex] or any size circle but those others are just more difficult to work with. Nevertheless, they would still give you the correct answer as long as your complex algebra is correct and you correctly identify the enclosed poles for the residue calculation. For example, if I let [itex]z=5e^{it}[/itex], I get:

[tex]\int_0^{2\pi} \frac{dt}{3-\sin(t)}=\mathop\oint\limits_{|z|=5}\left(-i\frac{dz}{z}\right) \frac{10iz}{30 iz-z^2+1}[/tex]

but I did that fast so you'd have to verify it. It's more messy though than just letting [itex]z=e^{it}[/itex].
 

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