Contour Integration: Calculating the Integral of $1/z$ with Residue Formula

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The discussion revolves around calculating the integral of the function $1/z$ along a contour in the complex plane, specifically from $-\sqrt{3}+i$ to $-\sqrt{3}-i$, while ensuring the contour does not enclose the singularity at $z=0$. Participants explore the implications of the contour's path on the integral's value and the application of Cauchy's residue theorem.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the integral's value depends on whether the contour encloses the singularity at $z=0$.
  • Others argue that since the contour is specifically chosen to not include $z=0$, the integral should evaluate to zero.
  • A participant suggests using a straight path to compute the integral, leading to a logarithmic expression.
  • There is a discussion about the validity of using logarithmic laws in the context of complex logarithms.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the implications of the subtraction law for complex logarithms and whether it affects the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the integral's value based on the contour's relationship to the singularity at $z=0$. There is no consensus on whether the integral is zero or if it can yield a non-zero value based on the chosen path.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the integral's evaluation may depend on the path taken, particularly regarding the presence of singular points and the application of Cauchy's residue theorem. There are unresolved questions about the treatment of complex logarithms and their properties.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying complex analysis, particularly in understanding contour integration and the implications of singularities on integral values.

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Calculate the integral of $1/z$ around $C$, where $C$ is any contour going from $-\sqrt{3}+i$ to $-\sqrt{3}-i$ and is contained in the set of complex numbers whose real part is negative.

My answer: Let $f=1/z$ Then $f$ has a simple pole at $z=0$ with residue 1. How do I calculate the winding number so I can use the residue formula?

Thanks
 
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Fermat said:
Calculate the integral of $1/z$ around $C$, where $C$ is any contour going from $-\sqrt{3}+i$ to $-\sqrt{3}-i$ and is contained in the set of complex numbers whose real part is negative.

My answer: Let $f=1/z$ Then $f$ has a simple pole at $z=0$ with residue 1. How do I calculate the winding number so I can use the residue formula?

Thanks

Choose any contour that doesn't include z = 0. Maybe the semicircle to the left of these points centred at $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \left( -\sqrt{3} , 0 \right) \end{align*}$.
 
Prove It said:
Choose any contour that doesn't include z = 0. Maybe the semicircle to the left of these points centred at $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \left( -\sqrt{3} , 0 \right) \end{align*}$.

So the value depends on whether the contour encloses zero?
 
Fermat said:
So the value depends on whether the contour encloses zero?

The contour CAN'T enclose z = 0 + 0i, surely you can see its real part is NOT negative.

So yes, the value of the integral will change if your contour contains this point. But you are told specifically to NOT include it.
 
Prove It said:
The contour CAN'T enclose z = 0 + 0i, surely you can see its real part is NOT negative.

So yes, the value of the integral will change if your contour contains this point. But you are told specifically to NOT include it.

ok sorry, I was a bit thrown by you saying to choose a contour. So in fact the integral is zero?
 
Fermat said:
Calculate the integral of $1/z$ around $C$, where $C$ is any contour going from $-\sqrt{3}+i$ to $-\sqrt{3}-i$ and is contained in the set of complex numbers whose real part is negative.

My answer: Let $f=1/z$ Then $f$ has a simple pole at $z=0$ with residue 1. How do I calculate the winding number so I can use the residue formula?

Thanks

Any path that leaves to the left point z = 0 is valid, so that you can choose a straight path. Setting $\displaystyle z= -\sqrt{3} + i\ t$ You have...

$\displaystyle \int_{C} \frac{d z}{z} = \int_{1}^{-1} \frac{d t}{- \sqrt{3} + i\ t} = i \ln \frac{\sqrt{3}- i}{\sqrt{3} + i}\ (1)$

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
chisigma said:
Any path that leaves to the left point z = 0 is valid, so that you can choose a straight path. Setting $\displaystyle z= -\sqrt{3} + i\ t$ You have...

$\displaystyle \int_{C} \frac{d z}{z} = \int_{1}^{-1} \frac{d t}{- \sqrt{3} + i\ t} = i \ln \frac{\sqrt{3}- i}{\sqrt{3} + i}\ (1)$

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

I wanted to use cauchy's residue formula.
 
Fermat said:
I wanted to use cauchy's residue formula.

How can a contour that doesn't have any singular points in it possibly give any residue?
 
Fermat said:
I wanted to use cauchy's residue formula.

The basic concept is well understood observing the figure...View attachment 2771

It is required to compute the integral $\displaystyle \int_{A B} \frac{d z}{z}$ along a path located entirely in the left half-plane. Two possible paths are AB and ACB. But f(z) is analytic inside the triangle ABC so that is $\displaystyle \int_{A B C A} \frac{d z}{z} = 0$ and that means that the integral computed along the paths AB and ACB are the same, i.e. the value of the integral doesn't depend from the path if it located entirely in the left half plane. The most comfortable path is of course the straigh line AB...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 

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chisigma said:
Any path that leaves to the left point z = 0 is valid, so that you can choose a straight path. Setting $\displaystyle z= -\sqrt{3} + i\ t$ You have...

$\displaystyle \int_{C} \frac{d z}{z} = \int_{1}^{-1} \frac{d t}{- \sqrt{3} + i\ t} = i \ln \frac{\sqrt{3}- i}{\sqrt{3} + i}\ (1)$

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

you should have factored in $z'=i$. So I get $ln(-{\sqrt{3}}-i)-ln(-{\sqrt{3}}+i)$. Can I use log laws even though its complex log? Cheers
 
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Fermat said:
you should have factored in $z'=i$. So I get $ln(-{\sqrt{3}}-i)-ln(-{\sqrt{3}}+i)$. Can I use log laws even though its complex log? Cheers

Yes, You can! (Happy) ...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 
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chisigma said:
Yes, You can! (Happy) ...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$

So you admit you made a mistake? Regarding the subtraction law, Wikipedia says they may differ by a multiple of 2pi
 
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Fermat said:
So you admit you made a mistake?...

Perhaps a more diplomatic approach would be:

"Was I correct in needing to factor in $i$?"
 
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Fermat said:
So you admit you made a mistake? Regarding the subtraction law, Wikipedia says they may differ by a multiple of 2pi
View attachment 2772

If Wikipedia says so ... what can we do as humans? (Tmi)...

Kind regards

$\chi$ $\sigma$
 

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