Contradiction of God's Omnipotence, Omniscience, and Omnibenevolence

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The discussion centers on the contradiction between God's omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence in the context of human suffering. Participants argue that if God is all-knowing and all-loving, He would want to prevent pain, suggesting a limitation in His power; if He is all-powerful and loving, His lack of action indicates He may not be fully aware of human suffering; and if He is all-powerful and all-knowing, His inaction implies a lack of love. Some participants introduce the concept of free will, suggesting that pain is necessary for growth and learning, akin to parenting. The conversation touches on the philosophical implications of God's nature and the human understanding of suffering, ultimately questioning the coherence of traditional definitions of God in light of real-world experiences.
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Jameson said:
I think this has a formal name, to which I do not know, so I will try my best to explain these statements which I argue to be a contradiction of God.



Define "God" as all powerful, all knowing, and all loving.

Premise: Their is pain and suffering in the world

1. If God is all knowing and all loving, He knows of the pains of the world and would want to stop them. Therefore He is not all powerfull.
2. If God is all powerful and all loving, He has the capability to stop pain and suffering. Therefore he is not all knowing.
3. If God is all powerful and all knowing, He knows of the pains of the world and can stop them. Therefore he is not all loving.


Sorry if this isn't formal enough. I'm curious to hear everyone's thoughts on this. I want to see another side of thinking besides my own.

Jameson


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not a very good argument

much as I may agree to a degree, You cannot dismiss god by what he doesn't do. These accidents that he doesn't prevent may be necessary to save more life in the future. For instance, if you could go back and kill hitler, would it be wise, much worse may happen if you did.
 
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jim_990 said:
For instance, if you could go back and kill hitler, would it be wise, much worse may happen if you did.
But we're not talking about us doing it, but an "all powerful" god. Surely such a being could prevent the rise of hitler and other disasters without making things worse.
 
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Doc Al said:
But we're not talking about us doing it, but an "all powerful" god. Surely such a being could prevent the rise of hitler and other disasters without making things worse.

Exactly. :approve:
 

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