Contrary Movement: Proving it with Newton's Law

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The discussion revolves around the movement of two objects in relation to each other when one is pulled, specifically exploring the implications of Newton's laws of motion in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the forces acting on the objects and their resulting movements, questioning how friction influences this interaction. Some seek clarification on the original poster's scenario and the application of Newton's laws.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into how friction affects movement and the interpretation of Newton's laws. There is a recognition of different perspectives regarding the direction of movement and the role of friction, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are considering various conditions, such as the presence or absence of friction, which may affect the movement of the objects in question. The original poster's question lacks specific details, leading to varied interpretations.

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When 2 objects placed one on each other and one of them pulled, the second will move in a contrary way.

there is a way to proof it with Newtons law ?


tnx .:smile:
 
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sedaw said:
When 2 objects placed one on each other and one of them pulled, the second will move in a contrary way.

there is a way to proof it with Newtons law ?


tnx .:smile:

Hi sedaw! :smile:

I'm not sure what you mean … can you be more specific?

Do you mean that, for example, if a man is standing on a table on wheels, and he walks forward, then the table will move backward?

That's because of Newton's first law … no external forces are acting, so the centre of mass stays at the same (stationary) velocity … in other words, it stays where it is.

Alternatively, use Newton's third law … for the man to walk, there must be a force on him from the table, and so there must be an opposite force from him on the table, which makes the table move the opposite way.

Or use Newton's second law … :smile:

Or am I misunderstanding the question? :confused:
 
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Hello !

i`m hope it will be clear now...

if the force F will work on the object A and make em move to the right side the object B will move or aspire to move to the left.

why is that ?


TNX :smile:
 
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sedaw said:
if the force F will work on the object A and make em move to the right side the object B will move or aspire to move to the left.

No … if there is friction, B will move to the right (only very slightly, if you pull hard enough);

if there is no friction, B will remain stationary. :smile:
 
so the friction cause to the movment ?
 
sedaw said:
so the friction cause to the movment ?

Yup! :biggrin:

The friction causes the movement.​
 
And, notice that the friction causes B to move in the same direction as A, not "contrary". If there is little or no friction, B's movement may be less than that of A so B moves back relative to A, not relative to the floor.
 

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