(Control) Derivative filter and discrete model

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Hi I am back :).

I have been doing some Simulink modeling for a project. I modeled it with a discrete system due to the controller rate. I have noticed that for all the discrete system I have tried, adding a derivative filter not only improves the performance (smaller settling time), but it is sometimes also necessary.

The following example involving a discrete PID and a 2nd order discrete transfer function illustrates the behaviour:
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Autotune with no derivative filter N:
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Autotune with derivative filter N:
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I was wondering why such a behaviour would occur. Also, should I model the transfer function as discrete or continuous system for a physical system like F=ma? Any input will be appreciated.