Converging Infinite Series: Solving ln(1-1/k^2) = -ln(2)

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating the equation ln(1 - 1/k^2) = -ln(2), with a focus on the manipulation of logarithmic expressions and infinite series. Participants are exploring the convergence of an infinite series and the application of logarithmic properties in this context.

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  • Participants discuss taking the least common multiple (LCM) and separating logarithmic expressions. There are questions about the correct formulation of the problem, including missing summation symbols. Some suggest using the difference of squares and exploring the limit as k approaches infinity. Others mention the need to sum from k = 2 to n before taking the limit.

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There is an ongoing exploration of various approaches to the problem, with participants providing guidance on how to manipulate the series and logarithmic terms. Some participants express uncertainty about their understanding and seek clarification on specific concepts. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to navigate the problem without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants note that the problem involves an infinite series and that certain terms may cancel out during summation. There is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify concepts related to logarithmic identities and series convergence.

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I have to show that ln(1 - 1/k^2)= - ln(2)

I took LCM and separated the equation using ln(A/B) = lnA - lnB

How should i proceed now?
 
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?? Can you state your problem correctly ? Some summing or product symbols are definitely missing.
 
bigubau said:
?? Can you state your problem correctly ? Some summing or product symbols are definitely missing.

sigma k=2 to infinite is also there
 
jokerzz said:
I have to show that ln(1 - 1/k^2)= - ln(2)

I took LCM and separated the equation using ln(A/B) = lnA - lnB

How should i proceed now?

You describe your process too vaguely. But yes, you seem to be on the right track. :) Can you show us where you get to, so that we can check your work, and guide you from there?

You know the Difference of Two Squares: a2 - b2 = (a - b) (a + b) right? Maybe that should help.
 
Get rid of the natural logarithms. You'll get an infinite product in the LHS and a simple fraction in the RHS. From then on it's trivial.
 
VietDao29 said:
You describe your process too vaguely. But yes, you seem to be on the right track. :) Can you show us where you get to, so that we can check your work, and guide you from there?

You know the Difference of Two Squares: a2 - b2 = (a - b) (a + b) right? Maybe that should help.

Ok so now the equation is: ln(k-1)+ln(k+1) - 2ln(k)

so now what do i need to do? Apply the limit k-> infinity? But that wouldn't prove anything
 
jokerzz said:
Ok so now the equation is: ln(k-1)+ln(k+1) - 2ln(k)

so now what do i need to do? Apply the limit k-> infinity? But that wouldn't prove anything

It's summation, so there should be some terms you can cancel out. :)

You can try summing from k = 2 to n first, and then take the limit as n grows without bound.
 
VietDao29 said:
It's summation, so there should be some terms you can cancel out. :)

You can try summing from k = 2 to n first, and then take the limit as n grows without bound.

Im sorry but my concepts in this topic arnt very clear. Can you please elaborate a little?
 
jokerzz said:
Ok so now the equation is: ln(k-1)+ln(k+1) - 2ln(k)

so now what do i need to do? Apply the limit k-> infinity? But that wouldn't prove anything

Your series would look something like:
\sum_{k = 2} ^ {\infty} \left[ \ln(k - 1) + \ln(k + 1) - 2 \ln (k) \right], right?

Instead of summing to infinity, you should sum from k = 2 to n first, then take the limit as n tends to infinity. What I mean is this:
\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\left\{ \sum_{k = 2} ^ {n} \left[ \ln(k - 1) + \ln(k + 1) - 2 \ln (k) \right] \right\}

You can write out some of the first terms to see the pattern.
ln(1) + ln(3) - 2ln(2) + ln(2) + ln(4) - 2ln(3) + ...

What should you do now is to try to cancel out the terms. Hint: Most of them can be canceled out.
 
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VietDao29 said:
Your series would look something like:
\sum_{k = 2} ^ {\infty} \left[ \ln(k - 1) + \ln(k + 1) - 2 \ln (k) \right], right?

Instead of summing to infinity, you should sum from k = 2 to n first, then take the limit as n tends to infinity. What I mean is this:
\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty}\left\{ \sum_{k = 2} ^ {n} \left[ \ln(k - 1) + \ln(k + 1) - 2 \ln (k) \right] \right\}

You can write out some of the first terms to see the pattern.
ln(1) + ln(3) - 2ln(2) + ln(2) + ln(4) - 2ln(3) + ...

What should you do now is to try to cancel out the terms. Hint: Most of them can be canceled out.

Yeah all the terms accept -ln2 are cancelling out. But isn't this method a little crude? Isn't there any other way to prove it?
 
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jokerzz said:
Yeah all the terms accept -ln2 are cancelling out. But isn't this method a little crude? Isn't there any other way to prove it?

First, as I mentioned above, you should try summing to n first. There are 2 more terms that are not canceled out. And then, take the limit as n tends to infinity.
 
  • #12
VietDao29 said:
First, as I mentioned above, you should try summing to n first. There are 2 more terms that are not canceled out. And then, take the limit as n tends to infinity.

Finally I get it! Thanks a lot dude!
 

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