Conversion of EDX linescans to concentration

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The discussion revolves around the conversion of EDX linescans obtained from a scanning electron microscope (SEM) into concentration measurements, specifically focusing on how to derive grams or moles from the EDX data. The scope includes technical aspects of spectroscopy and quantitative analysis in materials science.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on converting EDX linescans, which are reported in counts per second, into mass or molar concentration using known parameters such as layer thickness and total area.
  • Another participant expresses their limitation in using EDX for quantitative concentration determination, indicating their experience is primarily in qualitative analysis.
  • A participant shares a paper that may contain relevant techniques or references for determining concentrations from EDX data.
  • Further references to papers related to biomembranes and ion selective ionophores are provided, although one participant clarifies they are not working in that specific area.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a method for converting EDX linescans into concentration. There are varying levels of familiarity with the quantitative aspects of EDX, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding specific techniques.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations in their experience with EDX for quantitative analysis, and there are references to external papers that may not directly address the initial query.

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I have recorded cross sections of a surface layer on a substrate in a scanning electron microscope (SEM), and took EDX (energy dispersive x-ray spectroscopy) linescans across the layer.

These are typically given in counts or cts per second.

Now, I know the average thickness of the layer from SEM and image analysis, and know the total area, so I know the volume, but I need to know how many moles or how many grams of the atoms I deposited I have to get a concentration c = g/cm^3 or c,mol = mol/cm^3. How can I convert the EDX linescans into grams or mols?

Thanks
 
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anyone kindly has an idea?
 
I wish I can help, but I only use the EDX spectrum when I use the SEM only to identify the elements present, rather than to make quantitative determination of the concentration. I hope someone else who is familiar with such technique can respond.

I have a paper that may have either some technique, or at least make a reference to it, on doing such a determination. Check it out and see if it might help.

http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi/reprint/18/17/6623.pdf

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
I have a paper that may have either some technique, or at least make a reference to it, on doing such a determination. Check it out and see if it might help.
http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi/reprint/18/17/6623.pdf
Zz.

Oh, you're working on biomembranes and ion selective ionophores?
These might be of interest to you:
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.bioelechem.2006.05.009
http://dx.doi.org/10.1002%2Fjcp.20476
 
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Salish99 said:
Oh, you're working on biomembranes and ion selective ionophores?
These might be of interest to you:
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.bioelechem.2006.05.009
http://dx.doi.org/10.1002%2Fjcp.20476

Actually, I'm not. But they were some of the papers I read when I was about to learn the physics of SEM.

Zz.
 
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