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The discussion revolves around converting the linear equation y=3x into its polar form, exploring the implications of the conversion and the representation of the line in polar coordinates. Participants engage in a step-by-step analysis of the transformation and its geometric interpretation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a method for converting y=3x into polar form by substituting x and y with their polar equivalents, leading to the equation r [sin(theta) - 3 cos(theta)] = 0.
  • Another participant points out that while the angle 1.2490 radians corresponds to the line's slope, it does not represent a polar form of the equation, suggesting that the notation should include theta explicitly.
  • A third participant questions the validity of polar points (0, 1.249 rad) and (infinity, 1.249 rad), expressing confusion about the representation of the line in polar coordinates given that r = 0 does not depict a line.
  • Another participant emphasizes that polar coordinates are not ideal for representing straight lines, suggesting that the equation sin(theta) = 3 cos(theta) leads to multiple (r, theta) pairs that satisfy the condition, thus representing the line y=3x in polar form.

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Participants express differing views on the representation of the line in polar coordinates, with some agreeing on the angle's significance while others contest the interpretation of polar points and the suitability of polar coordinates for linear equations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best way to express the line in polar form.

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There is uncertainty regarding the representation of the line in polar coordinates, particularly concerning the implications of r = 0 and the inclusion of angles in different quadrants. The discussion highlights the limitations of polar coordinates for straight lines.

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I have gotten from this equation: y=3x into its polar form by substituting
x= r cos (theta) and y=r sin (theta) to get me here:



r sin (theta) = 3r cos (theta) Substitute and simplify.

r sin (theta) - 3r cos (theta) = 0 Subtract 3r cos (theta) from both sides.

r [sin (theta) - 3 cos (theta)] = 0 Factor out r from the equation.

Now I set both equal to zero like this...

r = 0 or sin (theta) - 3 cos (theta) = 0



I am assuming r = 0 is included in the graph of the second equation. So the only solution to the original problem comes from solving the second equation for Theta --->

sin (theta) - 3 cos (theta) = 0

arctan (3) = 1.2490 radians

Is 1.2490 radians the correct solution to the original question of convert y=3x into polar form?
 
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That might be the right answer to the question of what angle is formed between the line y=3x and the x-axis, but just "1.2490 radians" isn't a polar form of anything, it's just a number. An answer like "theta=1.249" might look better, but keep in mind you're missing the half of the line that goes through the third quadrant (as traditionally r is taken to be non-negative)
 
Thanks for your help. Office Shredder. Are either of these possible as polar points

(0,1.249 rad) , (infinity, 1.249 rad)

because I am thinking since r = 0 it cannot possibly be a line like y=3x. Convert the radian angle I found into a polar point that extends infinitely into the I and III Quadrants like the rectangular line equation.
 
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Remember that polar coordinates are not the best for graphing straight lines, they are better with curves.

you have, sin (theta) - 3 cos (theta) = 0. from here, you can get
sin (theta) = 3 cos (theta), divide both sides by cos (theta)
tan (theta) = 3

Now think about all the (r, theta) that satisfy this equation. Well no matter what the r is the tan of theta has to be equal to 3. So as long as the angle formed with the origin is 1.249 rad, then the point (r, theta) is valid. The set of all (r, theta) solutions is the same as your graph of y = 3x.

HTH
 

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