Converting between cartesian and polar coordinates

In summary, the particle's velocity is given by ui along the line y=2. To find its velocity in polar coordinates, you can integrate to find the position and then use the equations r=\sqrt{(ut+c)^2 + 4}, \phi=\arctan(\frac{2}{ut+c}), and v=\sqrt{(dr/dt)^2+( r d\phi /dt)^2 } to calculate the speed. However, this approach may not be correct as it depends on the initial position. More clarification or assistance may be needed to fully understand the topic.
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Particle is moving with velocity v= ui along the line y=2. What is its v in polar coordinates

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I think I'm being really stupid here but not entirely sure where to start. If you integrate to find position you have it as = ut + c i + 2j and then in polar coordinates is this

r=[tex]\sqrt{}(ut+c)^2 + 4[/tex]r^? But then if you were to differentiate that the velocity would depend on the initial position which can't be right. I'm obviously doing something wrong and haven't got my head round this topic yet, any help would be appreciated.
 
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[tex]
r=\sqrt{(ut+c)^2 + 4}
[/tex]

The polar angle is:

[tex]
\phi=\arctan(\frac{2}{ut+c})
[/tex]

The speed in polar coordinates:

[tex]
v=\sqrt{(dr/dt)^2+( r d\phi /dt)^2 }

[/tex]

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I would suggest starting by reviewing the definitions and equations for converting between cartesian and polar coordinates. In cartesian coordinates, the particle's position is described by its x and y coordinates, while in polar coordinates, it is described by its distance from the origin (r) and the angle it makes with the positive x-axis (theta). The equations for converting between the two are:

x = r cos(theta)
y = r sin(theta)

To find the particle's v in polar coordinates, we need to find the velocity components in the r and theta directions. We can do this by differentiating the equations for x and y with respect to time:

v_x = dx/dt = r cos(theta) * dr/dt - r sin(theta) * d(theta)/dt
v_y = dy/dt = r sin(theta) * dr/dt + r cos(theta) * d(theta)/dt

Since the particle is moving along the line y=2, we know that its y velocity (v_y) is constant and equal to 2. Therefore, we can solve for the r and theta components of velocity:

v_x = r cos(theta) * dr/dt - 2
v_y = r sin(theta) * dr/dt + 2

We can then use the Pythagorean theorem to find the magnitude of the velocity (v) in polar coordinates:

v = sqrt(v_x^2 + v_y^2) = sqrt((r cos(theta) * dr/dt - 2)^2 + (r sin(theta) * dr/dt + 2)^2)

And finally, we can use trigonometric identities to find the angle (phi) that the velocity makes with the positive r-axis:

tan(phi) = v_y/v_x = (r sin(theta) * dr/dt + 2)/(r cos(theta) * dr/dt - 2)

Therefore, the particle's velocity in polar coordinates is given by (v, phi). I hope this helps clarify the process of converting between cartesian and polar coordinates and finding the velocity in polar coordinates.
 

FAQ: Converting between cartesian and polar coordinates

What are cartesian and polar coordinates?

Cartesian coordinates are a system of representing points on a plane using the x and y axes. Polar coordinates are a system of representing points on a plane using a distance from the origin and an angle.

How do I convert cartesian coordinates to polar coordinates?

To convert cartesian coordinates (x, y) to polar coordinates (r, θ), use the formulas r = √(x² + y²) and θ = tan⁻¹(y/x), where r is the distance from the origin and θ is the angle measured counterclockwise from the positive x-axis.

How do I convert polar coordinates to cartesian coordinates?

To convert polar coordinates (r, θ) to cartesian coordinates (x, y), use the formulas x = r cos(θ) and y = r sin(θ), where r is the distance from the origin and θ is the angle measured counterclockwise from the positive x-axis.

What are the benefits of using polar coordinates over cartesian coordinates?

Polar coordinates are often more useful when working with circular or rotational systems. They also make it easier to describe points using a distance and angle, rather than two separate numerical values. Additionally, some equations and functions are simpler to express in polar coordinates.

Can I convert between cartesian and polar coordinates in higher dimensions?

Yes, it is possible to convert between cartesian and polar coordinates in higher dimensions. In three dimensions, polar coordinates would involve using a distance from the origin, an angle measured from the positive z-axis, and an angle measured from the positive x-axis in the x-y plane. However, the formulas for conversion become more complex as the number of dimensions increases.

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