1. Not finding help here? Sign up for a free 30min tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Converting partial derivative w.r.t. T to partial derivative w.r.t. 1/T

  1. Apr 1, 2008 #1
    Hi, I have a question about a certain step in the following problem/derivation, which you'll see in square brackets:

    Show that T * ([tex]\partial[/tex]/ [tex]\partial[/tex]T) = (-1/T) * ([tex]\partial[/tex]/ [tex]\partial[/tex](1/T))
    ["[tex]\partial[/tex]/[tex]\partial[/tex]T" is the operator that takes the partial derivative of something with respect to T]

    Showing that this is true is a little tricky. For example, we can define F = 1/T. Then ([tex]\partial[/tex]F/ [tex]\partial[/tex]T) = -1/T^2 and ([tex]\partial[/tex]F/ [tex]\partial[/tex]F) = 1. So we can write

    ([tex]\partial[/tex]F/ [tex]\partial[/tex]T) = (-1/T^2) ([tex]\partial[/tex]F/ [tex]\partial[/tex]F).

    [In the next step he drops the F, so it's now an operator for an arbitrary function, but still with respect to F… Is this really okay?]

    ([tex]\partial[/tex]/ [tex]\partial[/tex]T) = (-1/T^2)([tex]\partial[/tex]/ [tex]\partial[/tex]F)

    = (-1/T^2) ([tex]\partial[/tex]/ [tex]\partial[/tex](1/T)).

    Multiplying by T, T([tex]\partial[/tex]/ [tex]\partial[/tex]T) = (-1/T)([tex]\partial[/tex]/ [tex]\partial[/tex](1/T)) and we're done.
     
  2. jcsd
  3. Apr 1, 2008 #2

    The operator identity holds by definition if, when acting on suitable functions, both sides of the identity give the same result. So in my understanding it is not quite right to conclude the operator identiy from only having shown that when acting on F they give the same result. However you can easily cure this. It is just the chain rule. Let g(T) be some function, F(T) = 1/T,. then

    [tex]
    \frac{\partial g}{\partial T} = \frac{\partial F}{\partial T}\frac{\partial g}{\partial F} = -\frac{1}{T^2}\frac{\partial g}{\partial F}
    [/tex]

    This is true for any suitable function g so

    [tex]
    \frac{\partial }{\partial T} = -\frac{1}{T^2}\frac{\partial }{\partial F}
    [/tex]

    or

    [tex]
    T\frac{\partial }{\partial T} = -\frac{1}{T}\frac{\partial }{\partial (1/T)}
    [/tex]
     
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2008
  4. Apr 1, 2008 #3
    Thanks, it makes complete sense now. So simple, doh!
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?



Similar Discussions: Converting partial derivative w.r.t. T to partial derivative w.r.t. 1/T
  1. Partial derivative (Replies: 21)

  2. The partial derivative (Replies: 2)

Loading...