Cooking saltpeter+sugar rocket fuel?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the preparation and safety considerations of using saltpeter and sugar as rocket propellant. Participants express concerns regarding the risks involved in the process, including ignition temperatures, potential hazards, and the need for proper guidance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks information on the safe preparation of saltpeter and sugar rocket propellant, emphasizing the need to understand the chemistry involved before attempting to follow instructions.
  • Another participant warns that heating an oxidant with a fuel can lead to dangerous effects, implying that caution is necessary.
  • A further contribution highlights the potential for explosions or uncontrolled burns when heating these chemicals, suggesting that seeking hands-on guidance from an experienced individual is crucial.
  • A historical anecdote is shared about a dangerous incident involving high school students attempting to make rocket fuel, illustrating the serious risks associated with improper handling.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the dangers of preparing rocket fuel without proper knowledge and guidance, but there is no consensus on specific safety measures or detailed procedures.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about ignition temperatures, potential reactions with other substances, and methods for extinguishing ignited propellant, indicating a lack of comprehensive information on these topics.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring amateur rocketry, chemistry enthusiasts, or those considering the practical applications of propellant chemistry.

Artlav
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Is there some place with good information on saltpeter+sugar rocket propellant and it's making?

The problem is, there are a lot of places on the internet telling how to do it right, but next to none on how to do it wrong, and I'm not brave enough to follow someone's instructions without understanding what's going on.

What temperature it can ignite at?
What could go very wrong and how it looks before that?
Any way to extinguish it should it ignite?
Is it susceptible to detonation, friction ignition, sudden self-ignition?
Is there any common substances it will violently react with?
Etc?
 
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Artlav said:
... and I'm not brave enough to follow someone's instructions without understanding what's going on.

You want instructions from us?

You are going to heat an oxidant with a fuel. Expect some effects.
 
You are going to heat two chemicals that could explode or if ignited will continue to burn until they have exhausted themselves. Unless you want a new address with 17 different zip codes I would highly recommend that you get help from someone who knows exactly what to do. By that I don't mean instructions from the internet, I mean hands on from someone who knows.

I remember way back in the 70s in Great Falls, Montana two high school students were cooking up some rocket fuel in the fireplace of one of their homes. The result was 1 dead, 1 severely burned and the home destroyed.
 
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