Cooling Lead Shot: Final Temp Calculation

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The problem involves calculating the final temperature of a mixture of lead shot and water after thermal interaction. The original poster presents a scenario where 5 kg of lead shot at 97.9 °C is mixed with 5 kg of water at 26.0 °C, prompting a discussion on energy transfer and temperature changes.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the energy transfer between the lead and water, questioning how to set up the equations for heat transfer. There are attempts to apply the formula Q = mcΔT and considerations about the relationship between the temperature changes of both substances.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem, including the setup of equations and the implications of energy conservation. Some participants express confusion regarding the calculations and the large numbers resulting from their attempts.

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Participants are working under the assumption that no heat is lost to the environment, and they are questioning the correctness of their setups and calculations without reaching a consensus on the final approach.

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Homework Statement


5 kg of lead shot at 97.9 °C are poured into 5 kg of water at 26.0 °C. Find the final temperature of the mixture. Use cwater = 4187 [(J)/(kg·° C)] and clead = 128 [(J)/(kg·° C)].


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How do I start this?
 
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There are the initial energy content of the water and of the lead shot.

The energy must transfer from hot (lead) to cold (water), i.e. the difference (change) in energy content of the lead, which is related to the temperature change, must equal the change in energy of the water.

And ultimately, they have the same temperature.
 
So can I use Q = mc * change in temperature?
 
BuBbLeS01 said:
So can I use Q = mc * change in temperature?

Yes - realizing that the lead and water will have the same, as yet to be determined, temperature T.
 
Q = (Ml * Cl * CH T) + (Mw * Cw * CH T)
Q = CH T * [(Ml * Cl) + (Mw * Cw)]
Q = CH T (21575)
Q = Tf - Ti * (21575)
Tf = (97.9C + 273K) * (21575) = 8002167.5
Was I supposed to subtract the lead and water? Cause that's obviously wrong hehe.
 
Why am I getting such a huge number?
 
Does anyone know how to do this?
 
The lead starts at some temperature Th and cools to temperature T, which one is trying to find, so the temperature change (Th - T) is proportional to thermal energy lost. At the same time, the water is starting at some temperature Tc and heats to temperature T, and the change (T - Tc) is proportional to the heat gained, and that heat (thermal energy) comes from the lead.

Assuming not heat is lost from the system |[itex]\Delta{Q}_{Pb}[/itex]| = |[itex]\Delta{Q}_{water}[/itex]|

and [itex]\Delta{Q}[/itex] = [itex]mc_p\Delta{T}[/itex]
 
Okay so my m is just the mass of the lead?
Change in Q = (5kg) * (128J/kg*C) * Change in T (97.9 - T)
 
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BuBbLeS01 said:
Okay so my m is just the mass of the lead?
Change in Q = (5kg) * (128J/kg*C) * Change in T (97.9 - T)
That is fine for the lead.

Now do the same for the water.
 
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Change in Qpb = (5kg) * (128J/kg*C) * Change in T (97.9 - T)
Change in Qw = (5kg) * (4187J/kg*C) * Change in T (26 - T)
 
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so I set them equal to each other
 

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