Coordinates of a particle (coupled differential equations)

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The discussion revolves around solving coupled differential equations for the coordinates of a particle in the xy plane, specifically \(\dot{x} + \omega y = 0\) and \(\dot{y} - \omega x = 0\). Participants explore the relationship between the complex variable \(z = x + iy\) and its differential, leading to the equation \(\dot{z} - i\omega z = 0\). The solution involves expressing \(z\) in terms of an integration constant \(z_0\) and a phase angle \(\phi\), resulting in \(z = z_0 e^{i(\omega t + \phi)}\). Clarifications are provided regarding the integration constant and the significance of the phase angle in the context of complex numbers. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly substituting variables and understanding the role of complex integration in solving the equations.
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Homework Statement


I'm given two equations for coordinates of a certain particle in the xy plane, \dot{x}+ωy=0
and \dot{y}-ωx=0.
Then using the complex variable z=x+iy, find the differential for z, and solve it. Hence give x and y as functions of time.


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I'm not sure how this is gotten:
\dot{z}-iωz=0

Any help would be highly appreciated. Thank you!
 
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Hi Linday12! :smile:

Can you write \dot z in terms of x and y?
And then substitute the equations you have?

Can you also write iωz in terms of x and y?
 
Hi. I'm not really sure what to do. As far as I know, taking \dot{z}=\dot{x}+i\dot{y}, and \dot{y}=ωx and \dot{x}=-ωy, which doesn't seem to get me anywhere. I have no idea what I am doing.
 
Linday12 said:
Hi. I'm not really sure what to do. As far as I know, taking \dot{z}=\dot{x}+i\dot{y}, and \dot{y}=ωx and \dot{x}=-ωy, which doesn't seem to get me anywhere. I have no idea what I am doing.

So substitute your 2nd and 3rd equation in the first?
 
Yes. I then get \dot{z}=-ωy+iωx=ω(-y+ix). So I can sort of see the relation here now, except my variables seem to be the wrong way, and I have no idea where the \dot{z}-iωz=o comes from still, because i would be gone if the variables were the proper way and I subbed in z for the x-iy.
 
What is iz in terms of x and y?
 
Wow, interesting. So \dot{z}=iωz → \dot{z}-iωz=0 because iz=ix-y. Thank you! Sorry, one more question. Now that I have that, when solving it I get z=z_{0}e^{ωt}, but the answer has an additional phase angle \phi in it, so I was just wondering if there was a quick explanation for that.

It's been a while since I did any differentials (I haven't had a class in them yet), I think perhaps I'm used to the general formula that includes the phase angle in the constant z_0, but if you were to solve it you would get ln(z)=iωt+c, which is where the phase angle came from, but then where does the z_0 come from? Because the answer is z=z_0e^{ωt+\phi} Sorry, I hope that makes sense.
 
Your z0 is the integration constant that is itself a complex number.
Write z_0=r_0e^{i\phi} and you get:
z=z_0e^{i\omega t}=r_0e^{i\phi}e^{i\omega t}=r_0e^{i(\omega t + \phi)}

Btw, note the extra i and the use of the non-negative real number r0 instead of z0.
 
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