Correct Distance of 28.856m between 2 Points at 350°C

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The problem involves measuring the correct distance between two points using a steel ruler that is accurate at a specific temperature (180°C) but is used at a higher temperature (350°C). The measured distance is 28.85 m, and the task is to determine the correct distance considering thermal expansion.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of thermal expansion on the measurement, questioning whether the distance should increase or decrease with temperature. There are varying interpretations of the problem setup regarding whether the points being measured are on the ruler or external to it.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem and the effects of temperature on the ruler's measurements. Some guidance has been offered regarding the assumptions about the original length and the nature of the measurement, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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There is uncertainty regarding the scenario described in the problem, particularly whether the measured points are on the ruler or external to it. This affects the interpretation of how the ruler's thermal expansion should be applied.

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Homework Statement


A steel ruler is correct at 180c. when the temperature was 350c a distance of 28.85 m was measured between 2 points. what is the correct distance

Homework Equations


$$L=L_0(1-\alpha \Delta t)$$

The Attempt at a Solution


$$1+12E-6 \cdot 17^0=1.000204$$
How many big units enter in the original, correct, x, length:
$$\frac{x}{1.000204}=28.856$$
Is it correct?
 
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"A steel ruler is correct at 180c. when the temperature was 350c a distance of 28.85 m was measured between 2 points. what is the correct distance"

LOGIC TEST :biggrin:! Does steel expand or contract when it gets hotter? Should your answer be larger or smaller than the distance given?

I suggest making 28.85 your original length.

Edit: clarity
 
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Of course at a lower temperature the distances on the ruler shrink, so the count is higher, that's my logic.
The measure is taken at 35c, so at 18c the length will be longer, on the ruler, my formula is correct, i am pretty sure
 
Oh, forget what I said about the formula thing, I did it two different ways and ended up countering what I said with "making 28.85 the original length".

Anyways at a lower temperature the distance shrinks. So the count is higher? I think you are confusing the question a bit. You're not actually using to ruler to measure itself. Let's say the ruler is at 35C, and you grab another ruler to measure the distance between two points on the ruler, let's say from the 5cm to 20cm mark. When the temperature is 18C, you are still measuring from the 5cm to 20cm mark, but as you just said, the ruler shrunk, therefore your value should be smaller, at least this is how I interpreted the question, I see how you see the question.

Edit: The main difference I can tell between our approach is when it says the distance between 2 points, I assume the 2 points are on the ruler. In your case you say the points are not on the ruler, in which you would be correct. but I don't know which scenario the question wants, my reading comprehension sucks.
 
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The points are outside the ruler
 
then its right srry for confusion
 

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