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The discussion centers on the Correspondence Theorem for Groups as presented in "Advanced Modern Algebra" (Second Edition) by Joseph J. Rotman, specifically Proposition 1.82. Participants seek clarification on the surjectivity of the homomorphism $$\pi$$ and the properties of the preimage $$\pi^{-1}(U)$$. Key points include that $$\pi^{-1}(U)$$ is a subgroup of $$G$$ containing the kernel $$K$$, and the relationship $$\pi(\pi^{-1}(U)) = U$$ demonstrates the surjectivity of $$\pi$$. These insights are crucial for understanding group homomorphisms and their implications in algebra.

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I am reading the book: "Advanced Modern Algebra" (Second Edition) by Joseph J. Rotman ...

I am currently focused on Chapter 1: Groups I ...

I need help with an aspect of the proof of Proposition 1.82 (Correspondence Theorem) ...

Proposition 1.82 reads as follows:
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In the above proof by Rotman we read the following:

" ... ... To see that $$\Phi$$ is surjective, let $$U$$ be a subgroup of $$G/K$$. Now $$\pi^{-1} (U)$$ is a subgroup of $$G$$ containing $$K = \pi^{-1} ( \{ 1 \} )$$, and $$\pi ( \pi^{-1} (U) ) = U$$ ... ... "My questions on the above are as follows:
Question 1

How/why is $$\pi^{-1} (U)$$ is a subgroup of $$G$$ containing $$K$$? And further, how does $$\pi^{-1} (U) = \pi^{-1} ( \{ 1 \} )$$ ... ... ?
Question 2

How/why exactly do we get $$\pi ( \pi^{-1} (U) ) = U$$? Further, how does this demonstrate that $$\Phi$$ is surjective?
Help will be much appreciated ...

Peter
 
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Q1: if $f:G \longrightarrow H$ is a group-homomorphism. If $B$ is a subgroup of $H$ then $\pi^{-1}B$ is a subgroup of $G$, if $A$ is a subgroup of $G$, then $\pi A$ is a subgroup of $H$. You can prove that easily.
Now if $k \in K=\pi^{-1}1$, then $\pi k =1 \in U$, and so on ...

Q2: In set-theory we have this property: Let $X$ en $Y$ be sets, and $f:X \longrightarrow Y$ is a function, if $B \subset Y$, then $ff^{-1}B \subset B$. If, furhermore, $f$ is surjective, then $ff^{-1}B = B$. Conversely, you can easily prove that if $ff^{-1}B = B$ then $f$ is surjective.
You know that $\pi$ is surjective. You can apply this now to your problem.
 
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steenis said:
Q1: if $f:G \longrightarrow H$ is a group-homomorphism. If $B$ is a subgroup of $H$ then $\pi^{-1}B$ is a subgroup of $G$, if $A$ is a subgroup of $G$, then $\pi A$ is a subgroup of $H$. You can prove that easily.
Now if $k \in K=\pi^{-1}1$, then $\pi k =1 \in U$, and so on ...

Q2: In set-theory we have this property: Let $X$ en $Y$ be sets, and $f:X \longrightarrow Y$ is a function, if $B \subset Y$, then $ff^{-1}B \subset B$. If, furhermore, $f$ is surjective, then $ff^{-1}B = B$. Conversely, you can easily prove that if $ff^{-1}B = B$ then $f$ is surjective.
You know that $\pi$ is surjective. You can apply this now to your problem.
Hi Steenis ... great to hear from you again ...

Thanks for your help ...

... just now reflecting on what you have written ...

Peter
 
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