Cosby puts his money where his mouth is

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around Bill Cosby's financial support for two high school graduates and his broader commentary on the challenges faced by African-American youth, particularly regarding education and socio-economic factors. Participants reflect on Cosby's actions, his controversial statements, and the implications of growing up in disadvantaged environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express admiration for Cosby's financial support of students, viewing it as a significant positive action compared to other public figures.
  • Others highlight the importance of acknowledging the systemic challenges faced by children from low-income backgrounds, arguing that opportunities are not equally accessible.
  • There is a discussion about the impact of environment on personal success, with some suggesting that individual determination can overcome adversity, while others caution against oversimplifying this view.
  • One participant reflects on their previous misconceptions about success in America, recognizing the complexities involved in the experiences of disadvantaged youth.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to understand the psychological effects of growing up in a challenging environment and the limitations it can impose on individuals.
  • Some participants challenge the notion that all individuals have equal chances for success, pointing out that socio-economic factors heavily influence opportunities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are multiple competing views regarding the effectiveness of individual effort versus systemic barriers in achieving success. The discussion remains unresolved on the balance between personal responsibility and environmental influence.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the role of free will and personal agency in overcoming socio-economic challenges, indicating a lack of clarity on how these factors interact with systemic issues.

  • #61
i fail to see how those were suggestions... so it was true... all you can do is critisize...
i was asked how i would solve the problems with the american school system and you people yourself mentioned the parental issues... furthermore, the question arose about nutrition... i don't remember who spun it to be about obesid kids, as it was first about the advantage of having free/very cheap, good food in schools in order to make poor people send their kids to school, so they knowthey'll be fed right = two positive things... (and no, not all schools have decent food for the kids)... but i tried to find a rational solution to the problem...

you guys, on the other hand, are obviously incapable of anything but complaining and moaning... i find that very annoying, and you're wasting everybodys time...
 
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  • #62
balkan said:
i fail to see how those were suggestions... so it was true... all you can do is critisize...
I never said I has a suggestion. But here's a start: parents shouldn't do/sell drugs, beat each other/their kids, be members of gangs, have kids out of wedlock, etc. Very little of that is in the government's control.

About the only thing the government could do to fix the problem would be massive boarding schools for kids in bad families (compulsory, of course). Expensive (I never said I was against spending money), but it could work (I am against doing things with little/no chance of success).

btw, when asked, I will always give a suggestion. There is nothing I hate more than hippie bumper stickers that say "War is not the answer."
 
  • #63
i was asked how i would solve the problems with the american school system and you people yourself mentioned the parental issues... furthermore, the question arose about nutrition...

IIRC, you are the one that started the banter about nutrition.

i don't remember who spun it to be about obesid kids, as it was first about the advantage of having free/very cheap, good food in schools in order to make poor people send their kids to school, so they knowthey'll be fed right = two positive things... (and no, not all schools have decent food for the kids)... but i tried to find a rational solution to the problem...

State laws require public schools to provide lunches that pass nutrition standards. Suffice to say that if a kid develops a nutritional deficiency, the problem is at home.

And your solution wasn't rational; it was pollyanna.

you guys, on the other hand, are obviously incapable of anything but complaining and moaning... i find that very annoying, and you're wasting everybodys time...

WE'RE the ones complaining? You have to be kidding me. Look over your threads and point out the number that are positive in tone. You could probably count them on one hand, especially in regards to Irag, the US, and our President.
 

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