[cosmology] Find the comobile distance of a galaxy given redshift and H0.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the comoving distance of a galaxy given its redshift (z=7.3) and the Hubble constant (H0=72 km/s/Mpc) within a cosmological model where the density parameters are set to unity. Participants are exploring the relationship between the scale factor and the redshift, as well as the implications of using the Friedmann equation in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the Friedmann equation and the integral for comoving distance, questioning how to incorporate the scale factor correctly. There is an exploration of the relationship between redshift and the scale factor, with some participants attempting substitutions to simplify the integral.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress in substituting variables in the integral, while others express uncertainty about the normalization of the scale factor and its implications for the calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and relationships involved, but no consensus has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of cosmological equations and the implications of different assumptions regarding the scale factor and redshift. The discussion reflects the challenges of applying theoretical concepts to specific calculations in cosmology.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the comobile distance of a galaxy with z=7.3, H_{0}=72 km/s/Mpc, universe with \Omega_{0}=\Omega_{0,m}=1
Calculate the scale factor when the galaxy emitted the light we receive today.

Homework Equations


Friedmann equation

(\frac{\dot{a}}{a})^{2}=(H_{0})^{2}[ \Omega_{0,r}(\frac{a}{a_{0}})^{-4}+\Omega_{0,m}(\frac{a}{a_{0}})^{-3}+(1-\Omega_{0})(\frac{a}{a_{0}})^{2}+\Omega_{\Lambda}]

The Attempt at a Solution


With this model of universe Friedmann equation becomes:

(\frac{\dot{a}}{a})^{2}=(H_{0})^{2}[\Omega_{0,m}(\frac{a}{a_{0}})^{-3}]

so

(\frac{\dot{a}}{a})=(H_{0})(\frac{a}{a_{0}})^{-3/2}

I should use the equation:

X=\int^{t 0}_{t em}\frac{cdt}{a\dot{a}}

X= comobile distance

..but i don't know how to put the scale factor into it.
 
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Since you know z, and since z is easily expressible in terms of the scale factor a, maybe you should use \dot{a} = da/dt to eliminate dt in
jacdiam89 said:
X=\int^{t 0}_{t em}\frac{cdt}{a\dot{a}}
 
First of all, thank you,

i did the substitution, now the integral is in da. I have problems using a_{0}. If i use the scale factor without it, the conclusions should be the same...i think! I mean, if
z_{mis}=\frac{1}{a_{em}}-1
then
a_{em} is \frac{a}{a_{0}}

...is it true?

I guess it is wrong, i think i didn't understand why the scale factor must be normalized..
 
I have had a closer look at this, and I think I have worked it out.
jacdiam89 said:
I should use the equation:

X=\int^{t 0}_{t em}\frac{cdt}{a\dot{a}}

Did you mean
\chi = \int^{a_0}_{a_{em}}\frac{cda}{a\dot{a}} ?
jacdiam89 said:
X= comobile distance

..but i don't know how to put the scale factor into it.

I don't think so. I think that \chi is the comoving coordinate and that the the comoving distance (what you are looking for) is a_0 \chi
jacdiam89 said:
First of all, thank you,

i did the substitution, now the integral is in da. I have problems using a_{0}. If i use the scale factor without it, the conclusions should be the same...i think! I mean, if
z_{mis}=\frac{1}{a_{em}}-1
then
a_{em} is \frac{a}{a_{0}}

...is it true?

I guess it is wrong

I think
z = \frac{a_0}{a_{em}} - 1
that is, you don't need to worry about the normalization.

I wrote the above in a hurry (my wife is pulling me out the door for a social engagement), so it might have some mistakes.
 

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