Could Other Bacteria Glow in the Dark Like E.Coli?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of applying methods used to create glow-in-the-dark E. coli to other types of bacteria and potentially to algae. Participants explore various techniques, references, and experiences related to genetic modification for bioluminescence.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire whether the high school lab method of freezing and heat shocking E. coli can be applied to other bacteria.
  • References to existing procedures and articles are shared, including links to protocols for transforming E. coli with GFP.
  • One participant mentions that GFP and its derivatives have been expressed in multiple bacterial species, as well as in fish and mammals.
  • There is a request for information on purchasing a specific derivative referred to as "Dolores" for creating glowing pond scum, which leads to clarification that many organisms called pond scum are actually algae, not bacteria.
  • Participants discuss the potential differences in procedures for introducing fluorescent transgenes into algae compared to bacteria.
  • One participant shares a link to a kit for GFP plasmid transformation, expressing uncertainty about public availability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about the applicability of E. coli methods to other bacteria and algae, with no consensus reached on the ease or feasibility of such transfers. Multiple viewpoints on the topic remain present.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the methods' applicability to different organisms, and the discussion does not resolve the specifics of the procedures for algae versus bacteria.

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Would the methods used to create glow in the dark e.coli readily work on other bacteria?
 
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Ok I guess I'll be more specific.What I mean is will the high school lab experiment method of freezing them and then heat shocking them readily work on other bacteria. Sorry for the unspecific first question I was tired and worded it vaguely.
 
I've done it myself in high school.
 
Yep same procedure will it readily transfer to other bacteria?
 
GFP (and its derivatives of different colours) has been successfully expressed by multiple species of bacteria. It's even been used in fish and mammals.
 
Do you know where the derivative Dolores can be purchased? I want to take pond scum from a local lake and make a glowing variety for a freshwater biome
 
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In a fish tank
 
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Please provide a link to "Dolores" so we can know exactly what it is you are asking. Note that GFP shines in UV light so you'll have to have a UV lamp to see anything.
 
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Uggg stupid autocorrect. Sorry for the hassle I meant colors.
 
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Warpspeed13 said:
Do you know where the derivative Dolores can be purchased? I want to take pond scum from a local lake and make a glowing variety for a freshwater biome

Note that most of the organisms commonly referred to as pond scum are not bacteria, but algae, a diverse group of unicellular eukaryotic organisms. While it is certainly possible to introduce fluorescent transgenes into these organisms, the procedures may be different from those used to modify bacteria. However, because there has been considerable research into modifying algae for biofuel applications, there may be some published, standard procedures for introducing transgenes into algae.
 
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Ygggdrasil said:
Note that most of the organisms commonly referred to as pond scum are not bacteria, but algae, a diverse group of unicellular eukaryotic organisms. While it is certainly possible to introduce fluorescent transgenes into these organisms, the procedures may be different from those used to modify bacteria. However, because there has been considerable research into modifying algae for biofuel applications, there may be some published, standard procedures for introducing transgenes into algae.
Cool thanks, are you by any chance on the bungie forums?
 
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Here's the procedure http://www.apsnet.org/edcenter/K-12/...iBacterium.pdf
From your reference:
In this lab, Green Fluorescent Protein (GFP) from the bioluminescent jellyfish Aequorea victoria has been incorporated into a plasmid along with a gene for resistance to the antibiotic ampicillin...​
... which is the procedure referred to in the New Scientist article in post #2 isn't it?

Short answer "yes".
 
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Warpspeed13 said:
Cool thanks, are you by any chance on the bungie forums?

Nope, sorry.
 
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Kk,.
 

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