Could people live inside the Sun?

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical concept of whether people could live inside the Sun, exploring various ideas related to energy supply, survival conditions, and the feasibility of such a scenario. The conversation includes speculative reasoning, references to popular culture, and technical considerations regarding the Sun's environment.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that living inside the Sun could provide an almost infinite energy supply, with references to fictional technologies from shows like Stargate Universe.
  • Others question the practicality of reaching the Sun's core, highlighting the extreme conditions such as high temperatures and radiation that would make survival impossible.
  • A participant humorously proposes that living inside the Sun could be feasible only at night when it is "not on," indicating a playful approach to the topic.
  • Concerns are raised about how to manage the intense heat and radiation, with suggestions of using advanced shielding or refrigeration systems to create a habitable environment.
  • Some argue that it might be easier to live just below the Sun's surface rather than at its core, where conditions are deemed less hostile.
  • Technical details about the Sun's core, including its temperature and density, are provided, emphasizing the challenges of survival in such an environment.
  • Several participants express skepticism about the feasibility of the idea, with one stating that the proposal violates guidelines for overly speculative posts.

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Participants exhibit a mix of speculative ideas and skepticism regarding the feasibility of living inside the Sun. There is no consensus on whether it is possible, with multiple competing views remaining throughout the discussion.

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The discussion includes various assumptions about technology and survival conditions that are not substantiated. There are unresolved questions regarding the practicality of energy management and environmental control within the Sun.

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Readers interested in speculative science fiction concepts, theoretical discussions about extreme environments, or those curious about the Sun's physical properties may find this discussion engaging.

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Sounds a bit crazy.
But you have an almost infinite energy supply on tap.

Easy to get to as well.
 
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Have you watched stargate universe? They are on a ship that gets it's energy by flying inside a star and collecting the sweet sweet honey. Just apply that shows technology to a house and youd be living in the sun.
 
No I haven't, is it any good?

Anyway it seems I am not the only one with this kind of idea, inside the Sun would be an idea place to live,

I have never heard of Stargate Universe, but apparently it is on Sky TV in the UK, I don't have Sky TV.

I will have to see if I can watch some of it.

How does it go inside a star without melting?
 
Could people live inside the Sun? Yes, but only during the night when it's not on.
 
Well... they got shields or something not really sure it was made by the "ancients" so it's a really really advanced ship they say. As for if the show is good or not... It's ok at times I guess :( The first episode is worth watching if you can find it tho.
 
Ivan Seeking said:
Could people live inside the Sun? Yes, but only during the night when it's not on.

:smile:

@alice is this a serious question? How do you propose we get the centre of the Sun, it seems you think it's 'easy to get to'... Once in the centre of the Sun how would it be useful in anyway? Where would we get OUR energy from, who cares about electrical energy to power our super Air Conditioners. Would we build some huge farm in the middle of the Sun too? Or wait the plants would need sunlight so we would build an orbiting farm always pointing inwards to make super growth of the crops. Then since it's easy to come and go from the centre of the Sun we would just travel back and forth. We would also bring with us all of the Great lakes for our water and it would sit behind the farm so it didn't all evaporate... and it would provide water for our farmland and for us.

This is freaking brilliant. Wonder how much it'll all come up to... I say no more than 10$
 
The core of the Sun is considered to extend from the center to about 0.2 to 0.25 solar radius. It is the hottest part of the Solar System. It has a density of up to 150,000 kg/m³ (150 times the density of liquid water) and a temperature of close to 15,000,000 kelvin (by contrast, the surface of the Sun is close to 6,000 kelvin). The core is made of hot, dense gas in the plasmic state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_core

Plus there's plenty of gamma and X-ray radiation.

In short, the answer is no.

See this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#Core - and following sections.

and it is not easy to get to - the radiation pressure is rather phenomenal - and being surrounded by a hot plasma is not conducive to survival.
 
zomgwtf said:
:smile:

@alice is this a serious question? How do you propose we get the centre of the Sun, it seems you think it's 'easy to get to'... Once in the centre of the Sun how would it be useful in anyway? Where would we get OUR energy from, who cares about electrical energy to power our super Air Conditioners. Would we build some huge farm in the middle of the Sun too? Or wait the plants would need sunlight so we would build an orbiting farm always pointing inwards to make super growth of the crops. Then since it's easy to come and go from the centre of the Sun we would just travel back and forth. We would also bring with us all of the Great lakes for our water and it would sit behind the farm so it didn't all evaporate... and it would provide water for our farmland and for us.

This is freaking brilliant. Wonder how much it'll all come up to... I say no more than 10$


Well it is easy to get to that's the easy bit.
We could do it now, all you have to do is use the space stations boosters to thrust it towards the Sun and that's it the Sun's Gravity would pull you in no problem.

The tricky bit is of course dealing with the heat but that I think is 'doable' you would need some kind of force field to protect us from the intense heat. As we have a huge energy supply we should be able to biuld some re-fridgeeration system to keep the temperature bearable.
We don't have to go to he hottest part or in the center which will have huge pressure, just under the surface to take advantage of the free energy.
 
Astronuc said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_core

Plus there's plenty of gamma and X-ray radiation.

In short, the answer is no.

See this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#Core - and following sections.

and it is not easy to get to - the radiation pressure is rather phenomenal - and being surrounded by a hot plasma is not conducive to survival.


You don't have to go to the core just under the surface where condition should be more pleasant.
 
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Astronuc said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_core

Plus there's plenty of gamma and X-ray radiation.

In short, the answer is no.

See this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#Core - and following sections.

and it is not easy to get to - the radiation pressure is rather phenomenal - and being surrounded by a hot plasma is not conducive to survival.


You don't have to go to the core just under the surface where condition should be less hostile.
 
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alice22 said:
Well it is easy to get to that's the easy bit.
We could do it now, all you have to do is use the space stations boosters to thrust it towards the Sun and that's it the Sun's Gravity would pull you in no problem.

The tricky bit is of course dealing with the heat but that I think is 'doable' you would need some kind of force field to protect us from the intense heat. As we have a huge energy supply we should be able to biuld some re-fridgeeration system to keep the temperature bearable.
We don't have to go to he hottest part or in the center which will have huge pressure, just under the surface to take advantage of the free energy.
No, it won't work.

I'm sorry but this post violates our guidelines for overly speculative posts.

closed.
 
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alice22 said:
You don't have to go to the core just under the surface where condition should be less hostile.
Under the surface the temperature is about 6000-10000 K. It's a wee bit toasty. :biggrin: No solids - just gas/plasma.
 

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