Could we say that velocity of light does not remain constant in time,

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of whether the speed of light remains constant over time, particularly in the context of an expanding universe. Participants explore various viewpoints, including the implications of variable speed of light theories and references to specific sources that claim changes in the speed of light.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the velocity of light may vary over time with the expansion of the universe, suggesting it could be less than c in certain operations.
  • Others argue that the prevailing paradigm in physics maintains that the speed of light is a constant, referencing the established theories of relativity.
  • A participant mentions variable speed of light (VSL) theories, specifically citing Joao Magueijo's work as a recent example of this idea, while acknowledging that it is not part of the agreed-upon cosmological model.
  • There are claims that some sources suggest the speed of light has decreased over the past 300 years, prompting requests for specific references.
  • Concerns are raised about the credibility of certain sources, particularly those associated with creationist viewpoints, which some participants express skepticism towards.
  • A later reply questions the implications of a decreasing speed of light, humorously suggesting that it could lead to a scenario where the velocity of light becomes zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the constancy of the speed of light, with multiple competing views remaining. Some defend the idea of a constant speed, while others explore the possibility of variability.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the reliance on potentially non-credible sources and the lack of resolution regarding the validity of variable speed of light theories within the current scientific framework.

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Could we say that velocity of light does not remain constant in time, but that it vary in time with the expanding Universe?
It could be different, less than c, in my opertations, but it is not according the relativity.
 
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Google "light speed as function of time" and you'll find many crackpot sites..

Paradigm of real physics is that the speed of light is a constant.
 
Magueijo etc

Ignition said:
Could we say that velocity of light does not remain constant in time, but that it vary in time with the expanding Universe?
It could be different, less than c, in my opertations, but it is not according the relativity.

Hi Ignition! :smile:

Lots of PF threads on this (which I haven't read! :biggrin:)

Do a google search for magueijo +"speed of light" site:physicsforums.com.

For example, https://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-150818.html":
Chris Hillman said:
Variable speed of light theories are actually a very old idea; the VSL proposal of Joao Magueijo is only the most recent contender.
 
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But the first site i have seen says that c has decreased in past 300 years.
 
what site??

Ignition said:
But the first site i have seen says that c has decreased in past 300 years.

erm … you need to specify the url. :smile:
 


So the velocity of light will be zero in the end?
Excuse me, but I can' t speak english very well.
 


Ignition said:

I wouldn't trust much that you read there, since it appears to be a creationist site. There are, as others have said before, variable speed of light theories, but they are not currently part of the agreed on model of cosmology. That's not to say they shouldn't be taken seriously, though. Try reading the link that tiny-tim gave you, specifically the post by Chris Hillman.
 
Creation Research Society Quarterly!

hmm …
PAPER DELIVERED AT PITTSBURGH CONFERENCE ON CREATIONISM … Summer 1994

The http://www.ldolphin.org/cdkalan.html" begins:
INTRODUCTION

In 1987 Setterfield published his monograph Atomic Constants, Light and Time[19] which raised again the question of the constancy of c. Since then there have been no less than 17 articles in the Creation Research Society Quarterly and 12 articles in the Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal debating this issue. Authors have used various statistical techniques including run tests, regression lines, weighted regression lines and distribution tests. One important claim made by Setterfield is that the decreasing c hypothesis explains how the transit time of light from galaxies billions of light years away takes only thousands of years.

Wow!

No less than 17 articles in the Creation Research Society Quarterly

and

12 articles in the Creation Ex Nihilo Technical Journal! :smile:

:biggrin: I'm impressed! :biggrin:
 
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It is a not trust site.
 
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Since the article clearly doesn't conform to PF guidelines, I'm going to lock this thread to prevent further discussion. If anyone wishes to talk about published VSL theories, then please feel free to open another thread.
 

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