Coulomb's Law Application: A charge repelling a mass on a frictionless incline

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The discussion revolves around applying Coulomb's Law to determine the equilibrium distance of a mass on a frictionless incline. Initial calculations incorrectly used the cosine function for the gravitational force component, leading to an incorrect distance of 0.104m. After clarification, it was established that the sine function should be used for the incline's angle, resulting in the correct distance of 4.51m. Participants emphasized the importance of resolving forces into components based on the slope's direction rather than traditional vertical or horizontal axes. The conversation concluded with appreciation for resources that aid in understanding these concepts.
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Homework Statement
At what distance from the 4 x 10-6 C charge is the 2.30 gram mass shown below (file attached) in equilibrium?

The angle of the frictionless incline is 28 degrees.

a) 1.31cm
b) 4.51m
c) 1.60m
d) 0.451m
Relevant Equations
Fg=mgcos(theta)
Fc=kq1q2/r^2
electrostatic constant (k) = 8.99*10^9
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Fg = Fc
Fg = 2.3g*9.8m/s^2*cos(28)=19.90N
19.90 = (8.99*10^9)*(4*10^-6)*(6*10^-6)/(r^2)
1/(r^2) = 92.23
r = 0.104m

However, it's not one of the option...
 
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DanielGuh said:
Homework Statement: At what distance from the 4 x 10-6 C charge is the 2.30 gram mass shown below (file attached) in equilibrium?

The angle of the frictionless incline is 28 degrees.

a) 1.31cm
b) 4.51m
c) 1.60m
d) 0.451m
Relevant Equations: Fg=mgcos(theta)
Fc=kq1q2/r^2
electrostatic constant (k) = 8.99*10^9

View attachment 331275
Fg = Fc
Fg = 2.3g*9.8m/s^2*cos(28)=19.90N
19.90 = (8.99*10^9)*(4*10^-6)*(6*10^-6)/(r^2)
1/(r^2) = 92.23
r = 0.104m

However, it's not one of the option...
A couple of mistakes.
The downslope component of the gravitational force is not mgcos(theta).
Grams are not kilograms.
There may be more.
 
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haruspex said:
A couple of mistakes.
The downslope component of the gravitational force is not mgcos(theta).
Grams are not kilograms.
There may be more.
Ohh I got it, the unit should be change, and when I use sin I find the answer is 4.51m. However, I don't know why do we use sin instead of cos.
 
DanielGuh said:
However, I don't know why do we use sin instead of cos.
Why did you use ##\cos## in the first place?
 
DanielGuh said:
Ohh I got it, the unit should be change, and when I use sin I find the answer is 4.51m. However, I don't know why do we use sin instead of cos.
Sin is for vertical axis, cos for horizontal.
 
DeBangis21 said:
Sin is for vertical axis, cos for horizontal.
That doesn't sound right.
 
DeBangis21 said:
Sin is for vertical axis, cos for horizontal.
It doesn't always work like that. In this problem, the direction is the slope's - not vertical or horizontal.

Being able to resolve a force (or any vector) into components is necessary for many sorts of problems. You can click here for a video explaining it from the basics. The last part of the video covers how to deal with an object on a slope.
 
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DanielGuh said:
Ohh I got it, the unit should be change, and when I use sin I find the answer is 4.51m. However, I don't know why do we use sin instead of cos.
A useful check is to think about the ##\theta=0## case. No downslope force, so you want the function that gives 0 at 0.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
It doesn't always work like that. In this problem, the direction is the slope's - not vertical or horizontal.

Being able to resolve a force (or any vector) into components is necessary for many sorts of problems. You can click here for a video explaining it from the basics. The last part of the video covers how to deal with an object on a slope.
This video helps a lot, thanks!
 
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