Coulomb's Law problem with three charged points

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving Coulomb's Law and electric fields generated by point charges. Participants are attempting to calculate the electric field at the position of a charged particle due to two other charges, while clarifying the distinction between force and electric field calculations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the application of Coulomb's Law, questioning the difference between calculating forces and electric fields. There are attempts to derive the electric field values based on given charge magnitudes and distances, with some participants expressing confusion about vector addition and the correct approach to the problem.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the distinction between force and electric field calculations, while others are still working through their understanding of the problem. There is an acknowledgment of mistakes made in calculations, and a few participants express uncertainty about their results, indicating an ongoing exploration of the topic.

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Participants note discrepancies in their calculations and the expected answers, suggesting that the problem may have specific requirements that were not initially clear. There is mention of a homework platform providing feedback on incorrect answers, which influences the discussion.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations



F=Keq1q2/r2

The Attempt at a Solution



Using Coulomb's Law, here's what I've worked out:

FAB=0.593N
FAC=0.309N

Fx=0.309 - 0.593cos60°= 0.0125
Fy=0.593sin60° =0.514

√(0.01252 + 0.5142) = 0.514 N/C

and θ = tan-1(0.514/0.0125) = 88.6°

I'm not sure why webassign is telling me that my answer is wrong. I worked out a problem almost exactly like this with slightly different numbers and got it right...
 
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You're finding the force on particle A, but the problem asks for the E-field at the position of particle A. Do you know the equation for the E-field of a point charge?
 
I thought it was the same formula? Shoot. Idk.

I'll review the problem and post here again if I have trouble. I guess I was just looking for the wrong thing. Thanks for pointing that out.
 
NotCarlSagan said:
I thought it was the same formula? Shoot. Idk.
I'll review the problem and post here again if I have trouble. I guess I was just looking for the wrong thing. Thanks for pointing that out.

It's a similar formula, but the E-field has units of N/C (while the equation you used gives force in N).

Hope that helps. If you have more trouble with your problem don't hesitate to ask.
 
So would the E-field simply be:

E=ke(2.2x10-6)/(0.52) = 7.91 x 104 N/C?
 
NotCarlSagan said:

Homework Statement


TRHZ2.jpg


Homework Equations



F=Keq1q2/r2

The Attempt at a Solution



Using Coulomb's Law, here's what I've worked out:

FAB=0.593N
FAC=0.309N

Fx=0.309 - 0.593cos60°= 0.0125
Fy=0.593sin60° =0.514

√(0.01252 + 0.5142) = 0.514 N/C

and θ = tan-1(0.514/0.0125) = 88.6°

I'm not sure why webassign is telling me that my answer is wrong. I worked out a problem almost exactly like this with slightly different numbers and got it right...
Webassign is right to tell you it's wrong.

However, Webassign (or whoever wrote the problem) should have asked for the electric field at the position of the 2.2μC due to the two other charges.

Back to your issue ...

What is the direction of the electric field due to charge B?

What is the direction of the electric field due to charge C?
 
Ok, I gave it a try but I think I'm still wrong.

EA = 7.91 x 104 N/C
EB = 2.70 x 105 N/C
EC = 1.40 x 105 N/C


EAX = (2.70 x 105) + (7.91 x 104)cos 60 = 3.10 x 105

EAY = (2.70 x 105) + (7.91 x 104)sin 60 = 3.39 x 105

ECX = (2.70 x 105) - (1.40 x 105)cos 60 = 2.00 x 105

ECY = (2.70 x 105) - (1.40 x 105)sin 60 = 1.49 x 105

Ex = EAX - ECX = 3.10 x 105 - 2.00 x 105 = 1.10 x 105

EY = EAY - ECY = 1.90 x 105

So, √[(1.10 x 105)2 + (1.90 x 105)2)]

= 2.20 x 105 N/C

And \theta = tan-1(EY/EX) = 60°

Phew. I hope that's at least in the right ballpark!? I got really confused about when I should be adding and subtracting some of those vectors...
 
Crap. I think I already made a mistake...I was supposed to ADD ECX...

Doing that gave me a final answer of 1.92 x 105 N/C
 
Well I couldn't figure it out in time. This was the only HW problem I missed luckily. Apparently the answer is 2.34 x 10 5

I wasn't too far off with my first answer...if anyone could help me with the solution I'd be really thankful.
 
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Charge B produces an E field of, \displaystyle \vec{E}_B=k_e\frac{7.5\times10^{-6}}{(0.500)^2}(\cos(120^\circ)\hat{i}+\sin( 120^\circ)\hat{j})=k_e\frac{7.5\times10^{-6}}{(0.500)^2}\left(-\frac{1}{2}\hat{i}-\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\hat{j}\right)

Charge C produces an E field of, \displaystyle \vec{E}_C=k_e\frac{3.9\times10^{-6}}{(0.500)^2}\hat{i}

Therefore, \displaystyle \vec{E}=\frac{k_e\cdot 10^{-6}}{(0.500)^2}\left((3.9-3.75)\hat{i}<br /> -3.75\sqrt{3}\hat{j}\right)<br />
 

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