Coupled differential equations

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The discussion centers on solving a system of coupled differential equations involving charge variables Q1 and Q2, with specific parameters R=1×10^3, L=4×10^-3, and C=1×10^-9. The initial approach involves assuming solutions of the form Q1=q1e^(at) and Q2=q2e^(at), leading to a matrix representation. The determinant condition yields a repeated root a=-1/(2RC), resulting in a particular solution. The challenge remains in finding a second independent solution, which may take the form (Bt+C)e^(-t/(2RC)). Alternative methods, such as integrating the second equation, are also suggested to derive a non-homogeneous second-order differential equation.

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Homework Statement


I need to find the general solution for:
[itex]R \frac{dQ_{1}}{dt} + \frac{1}{C}(Q_{1}-Q_{2})=0[/itex]
[itex]R\frac{dQ_{1}}{dt} + L\frac{d^2Q_{2}}{dt^2}}=0[/itex]
For the case [itex]R=1\times 10^3[/itex], [itex]L=4\times 10^{-3}[/itex], [itex]C=1 \times 10^{-9}[/itex].

The Attempt at a Solution


As an attempt I looked for solutions of the form, [itex]Q_{1}=q_{1}e^{at}, Q_{2}=q_{2}e^{at}[/itex] which then in matrix form gives:
[itex]\begin{pmatrix} Ra+\frac{1}{C} & -\frac{1}{C} \\Ra & La^2\end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix}q_{1}\\q_{2}\end{pmatrix}=\begin{pmatrix}0\\0\end{pmatrix}[/itex]

Setting the determinant of the matrix equal to zero, leads to a cubic. There is going to be a constant term corrisponding to the solution a=0, and the remaining quadratic gives a repeated root (using the values of L,C,R given): [itex]a=-\frac{1}{2RC}[/itex]. For this value of a we get a solution:
[itex]\begin{pmatrix}Q_{1}\\Q_{2}\end{pmatrix}=A \begin{pmatrix}2\\1\end{pmatrix} exp(\frac{-t}{2RC})[/itex]
where A is an arbitary constant.

But now I need to find another solution. I think it'll be of the form [itex](Bt+C)exp(\frac{-t}{2RC})[/itex] where B is related to A but I'm not sure how to go about finding it? Most of the results google gives seem to be for a slightly different style of question where there is only one first order derivative in each equation.

Thanks in advance.
 
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plmokn said:

Homework Statement


I need to find the general solution for:
[itex]R \frac{dQ_{1}}{dt} + \frac{1}{C}(Q_{1}-Q_{2})=0[/itex]
[itex]R\frac{dQ_{1}}{dt} + L\frac{d^2Q_{2}}{dt^2}}=0[/itex]
For the case [itex]R=1\times 10^3[/itex], [itex]L=4\times 10^{-3}[/itex], [itex]C=1 \times 10^{-9}[/itex].

The Attempt at a Solution


As an attempt I looked for solutions of the form, [itex]Q_{1}=q_{1}e^{at}, Q_{2}=q_{2}e^{at}[/itex] which then in matrix form gives:
[itex]\begin{pmatrix} Ra+\frac{1}{C} & -\frac{1}{C} \\Ra & La^2\end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix}q_{1}\\q_{2}\end{pmatrix}=\begin{pmatrix}0\\0\end{pmatrix}[/itex]

Setting the determinant of the matrix equal to zero, leads to a cubic. There is going to be a constant term corrisponding to the solution a=0, and the remaining quadratic gives a repeated root (using the values of L,C,R given): [itex]a=-\frac{1}{2RC}[/itex]. For this value of a we get a solution:
[itex]\begin{pmatrix}Q_{1}\\Q_{2}\end{pmatrix}=A \begin{pmatrix}2\\1\end{pmatrix} exp(\frac{-t}{2RC})[/itex]
where A is an arbitary constant.

But now I need to find another solution. I think it'll be of the form [itex](Bt+C)exp(\frac{-t}{2RC})[/itex] where B is related to A but I'm not sure how to go about finding it? Most of the results google gives seem to be for a slightly different style of question where there is only one first order derivative in each equation.

Thanks in advance.

I would have done it in a slightly different way- not using matrices. First integrate the second equation to get
[tex]RQ_1+ L\frac{dQ_2}{dt}= C_1[/tex]
so
[tex]Q_1= \frac{C_1}{R}-\frac{L}{R} \frac{Q_2}{dt}[/tex]
Also from the second equation,
[tex]R\frac{dQ_1}{dt}= -L\frac{d^2Q_2}{dt^2}[/tex]
so we can replace both instances of Q1 in the first equation:
[tex]-L\frac{d^2Q_2}{dt^2}+\frac{1}{C}(\frac{C_1}{R}- \frac{L}{R}\frac{dQ_2}{dt}-Q2)= 0[/tex]
or
[tex]-L\frac{d^2Q_2}{dt^2}-\frac{L}{CR}\frac{dQ_2}{dt}- \frac{1}{C}Q_2= -\frac{C_1}{CR}[/itex]<br /> a second order non-homogeneous equation with constant coefficients.<br /> Since that is a second order differential equation, it will have two independent solutions involving two new constants. That's as it should be since you orginally had first and second order equations to solve. After you have solved for Q<sub>2</sub>(t) you can immediately get Q<sub>1</sub> from<br /> [tex]Q_1= \frac{C_1}{R}-\frac{L}{R} \frac{Q_2}{dt}[/tex][/tex]
 
Thank you.
 

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