Creating A Derivative Problem that has a specific solution

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves creating a mathematical equation whose derivative equals either sec(x) or cot(x). The original poster expresses confusion regarding how to formulate such an equation using the quotient or power rule.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the potential use of the chain rule and the relationship between derivatives and specific trigonometric functions. Questions arise about the relevance of integrals and prior knowledge of differentiation rules.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the chain rule and its application, while others are seeking clarification on foundational concepts. There is an ongoing exploration of how to connect learned rules with the requirements of the problem.

Contextual Notes

The original poster indicates a lack of exposure to integrals and the chain rule in their coursework, which may affect their ability to approach the problem effectively.

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Homework Statement


So this is a problem that I am at a complete loss with. The question asked is, give an equation, using the quotient or power rule that derivative is equal to either sec(x) or cot(x). It doesn't matter which one, sec(x) or cot(x), just as long as the initial equation's derivative is one of them

Thank you for the help
Papa
 
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My first reaction was to use the integral or "anti-derivative" but I suspect this is an exercise preliminary to introducing the anti-derivative.

You should know the chain rule for differentiation and that the derivative of cos(x) is -sin(x) so you want to find a function, f(u), so that f'(u)= 1/u and then replace u with cos(x).
 
Thank you for the quick reply!

That may be the case, but up until this point and in none of the notes provided for this unit has taught me even the slightest about integrals or the chain rule, could you possibly explain?

Thanks!
 
So, you have learned the quotient rule and the product rule. And I assume you have learned the derivatives of the basic trig functions.
Your goal is to have a derivative that looks like ##\frac 1 {\cos x} ## or ##\frac {\cos x }{\sin x} ##.
Have you already learned about the derivative of ##\ln x ##?
The chain rule says if you have functions of functions i.e. ##f(g(x))## then ##\frac d{dx}f(g(x))=f'(g(x))g'(x)##.
 
oooh, alright the chain rule makes sense like that. Thank you very much!
 

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