Creating a Portable Steam Unit Without Stove Heating

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of creating a portable steam unit that operates independently of a traditional stove heating element. Participants explore various heating methods and designs suitable for a handheld device, considering both battery-operated and plug-in options.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the possibility of a portable steam unit without stove heating, expressing a desire for a handheld version with its own heating unit.
  • Another participant suggests using basic chemical heating methods, such as Sterno fuel or candles, as alternatives.
  • A different viewpoint proposes that a vacuum or pressure chamber could be effective, especially considering that water boils at lower temperatures at high altitudes.
  • Concerns are raised about the power requirements for a battery-operated unit, with some participants discussing the feasibility of using immersion heaters.
  • There is a suggestion to utilize a toaster oven or space heater components, emphasizing the importance of safety features like thermal insulation and a thermistor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the best heating methods and the practicality of different designs. There is no consensus on a single approach, as multiple competing views on heating sources and unit design remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations regarding power supply options and safety considerations, including the need for electrical expertise in the design process. There are also references to specific temperature requirements for steaming milk, which may vary based on altitude.

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Is it possible to create a portable steam unit similar to this but without the use

of the a heating element from a stove.

http://vimeo.com/42042554

If so?, briefly how would one go about this?

I would like to create something identical but with it's own heating unit

and be hand held.

Cheers!
 
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It's beyond my ken how anybody could put that crap into an otherwise decent drink like coffee, but I'll overlook that for now.
What about basic chemical heating? You know... Sterno fuel, a candle, napalm...
 
i don't know how big it would end up but...
water boils cold at high altitudes, so some sort of vaccum/pressure chamber might work

or using a battery pack you could power a form of "prison immersion heater"
 
That's great information.

Thank you kindly sir.

I'm going to a local engineer to talk further about this.

Cheers!
 
Alt-Bringer said:
you could power a form of "prison immersion heater"

I don't think that I even want to know what that is.

If simply boiling, as opposed to heating, is required, then you have a mighty fine idea with that suggestion of a vacuum pump. One could probably fit in a backpack. My concern about it is the power requirement. I assume that Pravspresso wants the unit to be battery-operated. That could present a problem.
 
Hi Danger,

Yes, preferably battery operated but plugging into an outlet is an option

if it makes any difference whatsoever.

Cheers,

p.
 
pravspresso said:
plugging into an outlet is an option

if it makes any difference whatsoever.
It absolutely does. Where I live, that means 1,500W at your disposal. Visions of sugarplums...

Hang on a second here...
I might have misunderstood the first post; I took it to mean that you didn't want to use electric heating (the element from a stove). Did you in fact just mean that you didn't want to use the whole stove? If that's the case, a few car cigarette lighters and a 12V battery could have you on your way.
 
Yes,

You got it right "no stove".

The outlet would be more desirable for my purposes of steaming 8-12oz of milk while in the kitchen

or some other area at work.

Cheers,

p.
 
That shouldn't present any problems, then. You could scavenge the guts out of a toaster oven (or even just a plain toaster) or a space heater or something else with a healthy dose of nichrome wire in its DNA.
Safety first, though. I'd like to see a thermistor in the design, set for about 105° (I don't know what the boiling point of milk is at any given altitude, but you want to stop just above it.) Also both electrical and thermal insulation and a fuse.
You can build it yourself, but get a qualified electrical expert to check it before you plug it in. (My eyebrows have never forgiven me for an incident with rebuilding a razor when I was about 12.)
 

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