Creating Electrons: A Question from Feyman

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The discussion revolves around the concept of particle creation, specifically electrons, in the context of quantum field theory (QFT) and the implications for conservation laws. Participants explore the theoretical framework of creation and annihilation operators, their mathematical roles, and the physical interpretations associated with them.

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  • One participant references a quote from R.P. Feynman questioning how an electron can be created without violating charge conservation.
  • Another participant distinguishes between kinematics and dynamics, suggesting that while kinematically one can conceive processes that appear to violate conservation laws, dynamics governed by a Lagrangian ensures that charge is conserved through the simultaneous creation of a positron when an electron is created.
  • A different participant discusses the Hamiltonian and number operators as constants of motion in non-interacting field theories, raising questions about the physical interpretation of field quanta within a cavity.
  • One participant emphasizes that in QFT, creation and annihilation operators are mathematical constructs that do not imply the physical creation of particles from nothing, but rather serve to describe systems with varying particle numbers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of creation operators and their implications for conservation laws. There is no consensus on the physical meaning of these operators, with some arguing for their mathematical utility while others question their implications for physical reality.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the topic, including the need to differentiate between kinematic and dynamic perspectives, and the limitations of current understanding regarding the physical analogues of theoretical constructs.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying quantum field theory, particle physics, or the mathematical foundations of physics, particularly in relation to conservation laws and the interpretation of operators in theoretical frameworks.

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"I remember that when someone had started to teach me about creation and annihilation operators, that this operator creates an electron, I said, "how do you create an electron? It disagrees with the conservation of charge"
-R.P Feymnan

I have a similar doubt someone please help
 
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One should distinguish kinematics from dynamics.
Kinematically, one can conceive processes that violate any conservation law. The operator that creates a charge is such a kinematical object.
On the other hand, dynamics, including the conservation laws, is described by a Lagrangian. In a charge-conserving Lagrangian, the operator that creates an electron is allways accompanied with an operator that creates a positive charge (i.e. positron in QED), so that the total charge is conserved.
 
Fine the hamilton operator and number operator are constants of motion.
Including the charge operator and momentum operator in the phi square non interacting field theories
For example consider a cubic cavity of volume V.
A Real scalar field ,so there are no charges
Assume there are N quanta of the scalar field within the Cavity.
Since Hamilton operator is constant of motion and hence number operator the number of quanta in the cavity are fixed at all times.
But the Question what puts the field quanta within the cavity.
ie what is the physical analogue of ak {0>
Im assuming NOn interacting langrangian
where ak is a creation operaor
Plz excuse me for being a little cryptic.
 
quantumfireball said:
"I remember that when someone had started to teach me about creation and annihilation operators, that this operator creates an electron, I said, "how do you create an electron? It disagrees with the conservation of charge"
-R.P Feymnan

I have a similar doubt someone please help

The whole idea of QFT is that this theory describes systems with any number of particles within one formalism. So, in QFT there is a single Hilbert (Fock) space where all kinds of systems live together: 1-electron, 2-electron, 2 electrons +1 photon,... Particle creation and annihilation operators do not have any physical meaning (it is impossible to create particles out of nothing). They are simply convenient mathematical objects which are useful for writing compact expressions for other operators that do make physical sense: energy, momentum, number of particles, etc.

Eugene.
 
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