Creating Wave Functions With One Variable: Can It Be Done?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of creating wave functions with only one variable, specifically exploring whether such functions can exist without the imaginary unit 'i'. Participants examine examples and propose various forms of wave functions, while also referencing the general equation of a wave.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that wave functions can be created using the imaginary unit 'i', with examples such as f(x) = i^x and f(x) = 2^ix.
  • One participant questions whether a wave function can be constructed without the number 'i' and with only one variable, suggesting that oscillatory behavior may be achieved through forms like r(x)e^(ig(x)).
  • Another participant states that it is possible to construct a one-dimensional wave of any shape.
  • One participant provides the sine function, y = sin(x), and relates it to complex exponentials, implying that this might not be a valid example without 'i'.
  • A question is raised about the notation (ig(x)), seeking clarification on whether it represents the imaginary unit times the function g of x.
  • There is a mention of the general equation of a wave being a second-order differential equation, although some participants express unfamiliarity with differential equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of the imaginary unit 'i' in wave functions, with some asserting its importance while others explore alternatives. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the existence of wave functions without 'i'.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference the need for oscillatory behavior and the forms of wave functions, but there are limitations in the assumptions made about the definitions and forms of these functions. The discussion also highlights a lack of consensus on the mathematical foundations involved.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring wave mechanics, mathematical physics, and the properties of wave functions in theoretical contexts.

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With the number i, its possible to create a wave function with just one variable.

example:

f(x)=i^x

or..

f(x)=2^ix

But is there any wave function without the number i AND with only one(x and y) variable? can this be created?
 
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y = sin(x)
 
Hello,

Are you aware of the general equation of a wave?

Hint: (It is a second order differential equation)
 
johann1301 said:
With the number i, its possible to create a wave function with just one variable.

example:

f(x)=i^x

or..

f(x)=2^ix

But is there any wave function without the number i AND with only one(x and y) variable? can this be created?

If you want something that oscillates, then something of the form r(x)e^(ig(x)) will give you that. A standard linear wave will be in the form g(x) = wx + c corresponding to a shift and frequency information and if you want a 'real' waveform with the same peak and trough for every wavefront then r(x) = c.

This expression will give you a complex wave-form with a real and imaginary component and if you want one or the other and not both you need to use the normal identities to get rid of the i term or the real term.
 
In fact, it is possible to construct a one-dimensional wave of any shape.
 
y = sin(x)

This is the same as

y=1/2 i e^(-i x)-1/2 i e^(i x)

so that would be "cheating"...
 
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(ig(x))

does this mean i*g(x) (the imaginary unit times the function g of x)?
 
Hello,

Are you aware of the general equation of a wave?

Hint: (It is a second order differential equation)

I don't know anything about differential equations:(
 

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