Critical mass for nuclear fusion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of critical mass in nuclear fusion, specifically addressing whether a minimum mass is required for fusion to occur, and exploring the implications for small fusion bombs and advanced propulsion systems. Participants consider various ignition methods, including lasers and relativistic electron beams, and the feasibility of micro-scale fusion.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that nuclear fusion does not require a critical mass, contrasting it with fission, which does.
  • One participant notes that while fusion bombs utilize fission bombs to initiate the reaction, thus requiring critical mass for the fission component.
  • There is a suggestion that micro-scale fusion could be feasible with specific ignition methods, although practical success has not been achieved.
  • Another participant mentions the theoretical possibility of using very small fuel pellets for fusion, but emphasizes that it remains a dream rather than a reality.
  • Discussion includes the concept of using inertial confinement fusion with lasers and the implications for the size and energy output of such systems.
  • Some participants express interest in applying fusion concepts to advanced space propulsion systems, referencing historical projects like Project Orion.
  • One participant mentions that a sufficient quantity of tightly confined plasma is necessary for fusion, suggesting that less than a gram may suffice.
  • A link is provided to a story about micro-scale fusion, indicating ongoing research in this area.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there is no critical mass for fusion itself, but there are competing views on the practical implications and feasibility of small fusion bombs and micro-scale fusion. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practical applications and success of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific ignition methods and the unresolved nature of practical implementations of micro-scale fusion and advanced propulsion systems.

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Hello, can you please confirm this statement "Nuclear fusion does not require a minimum mass to occur (critical mass), which is instead a characteristic limit of fission. So you can make small fusion bombs as much as you want."?
Thanks!
 
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Thanks! In this case we are considering the ignition with a laser or relativistic electron beam, so is it true that we can have a micro-bomb according to you?
 
Methavix said:
we are considering the ignition with a laser or relativistic electron

Who is we? It sounds like you're working on a SF story, is that right?

In theory, the answer to that question is yes. But in practice nobody has come even close to making that succeed.
One idea for a fusion power plant was to implode fuel pellets the size of a grain of a sesame seed. It is still a dream, not reality.
 
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Oh yes, I didn't mean that I'm working on this kind of fusion bomb :D I only meant that I am considering this system of ignition in the reasoning I am doing with other people.
Thanks for your help!
 
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So you can make small fusion bombs as much as you want
Have you read about Inertial Confinement Fusion with lasers? You should look at the size of the target spheres and read how much energy is released per shot. I don't know if that qualifies as your "bomb" or not. Also, I guess you need to include the size of the building housing the laser system in the "size" of the "bomb"... :smile:

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Thank you! Actually, I'm considering this kind of bombs for advanced space propulsion systems, not on the Earth. Anyway thanks for your suggestion.
 
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For fusion reactions there has to be a sufficient quantity of very tightly confined plasma.
Not that much though, less than a gram will do the trick, IIRC
 

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