Critical points of 2-Variable Function

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The discussion revolves around finding local maxima, minima, and saddle points of the function f(x,y) = x^2 + y^2 + x^2y + 4. The original poster expresses difficulty in solving the partial derivatives to identify critical points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to solve the equations derived from the partial derivatives but struggles with the algebra involved. They express confusion about solving the equations simultaneously rather than assigning specific values to variables. Other participants suggest checking specific values for x and corresponding values for y to identify critical points.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various approaches to identify critical points, with some confirming that specific points satisfy the equations. There is an ongoing examination of the relationships between the variables and the implications of the derived equations.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses frustration with their algebraic skills and seeks clarity on the process of finding critical points, indicating a potential gap in understanding how to manipulate the equations effectively.

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Homework Statement


Find local max/min, and saddle points (if any) of

[tex]f(x,y)=x^2+y^2+x^2y+4[/tex]

This should be simple, but I am having algebra-block on solving the partial derivatives to find the critical points.

[itex]f_x=2x+2xy=0[/itex] (1)
[itex]f_y=2y+x^2=0[/itex] (2)

If I multiply the second equations by -x an add it to the second and solve for x, I get

x={0,+sqrt2, -sqrt2}

But for some reason I cannot figure out how to solve equation 2 ?

Why am I retarded?
 
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Well, for x=0 equation 2 gives: [itex]2y+(0)^2=0 \Rightarrow y=0[/itex] How about for x=+sqrt2?
 
I guess I don't understand this.

I want to know at what points the slope of the tangent lines is 0.

Now, I need values of x and y that satisfy both equations simultaneously. I am used to solving the equations simultaneously, not by assigning specific values to x or y.

I am not sure why that bothers me so much. But as you say:

if x=0 then eq 2 is satisfied by y=0, thus (0,0) is critical

if x=+ or - sqrt2 eq 2 is satisfied by y=-1, thus (+sqrt2, -1) and (-sqrt2, -1) are critical, yes?
 
Yes, you can double check that those points satisfy both equations by substituting each point into them.
 

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