Cross Sections for Neutron Scattering in Different Frames

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of neutron scattering cross sections as provided by a specific online resource, particularly focusing on whether the incident energy is expressed in the lab frame or the center of mass (COM) frame. The context includes theoretical considerations and practical implications for calculations involving neutron interactions with hydrogen.

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  • One participant questions whether the cross sections listed are in the lab frame or the COM frame, particularly for hydrogen.
  • Another participant asserts that the lab frame is used, indicating that a 1 MeV neutron retains an incident energy of 1 MeV.
  • A follow-up response clarifies that the 250 keV figure relates to the COM frame, suggesting that for hydrogen, the kinetic energy is reduced due to the relative motion of the target nucleus.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications for Monte Carlo simulations, particularly regarding the angular distribution being defined in the COM frame.

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There is no consensus on whether the cross sections are provided in the lab frame or the COM frame, as participants present differing views and interpretations regarding the energy values.

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Participants reference specific energy values and their implications for calculations, but the discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding frame of reference for the cross sections.

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This is probably a very dumb question, but I'm stuck with it.
The cross sections one finds on http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/sigma/ as a function of incident energy, is that energy given in the lab frame or in the cog frame ?
For heavy a nuclide, this doesn't matter, but for hydrogen for instance ?
If I have a (lab frame) neutron at 1MeV impinging on (thermal) hydrogen, do I read the table at 1MeV or at 250KeV ?

Thanks,
cheers,
Patrick.
 
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As far as I know, one uses the lab frame, i.e. a 1 MeV neutron has incident energy of 1 MeV.

Where did the 250 keV come from? COM?
 
Astronuc said:
As far as I know, one uses the lab frame, i.e. a 1 MeV neutron has incident energy of 1 MeV.

Where did the 250 keV come from? COM?

Yes: half the speed (for hydrogen), hence 1/4 the KE...

Thanks for the answer !

In fact, this is how I wrote a Monte Carlo, and then I got worried that the energy might be given in the COM frame, because the angular distribution is, as far as I understand, given in the COM frame.
 

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