Cube of Resistor Problem - Nice one

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The problem involves determining the equivalent resistance between points A and C' in an asymmetrical cube circuit with resistors. The discussion centers around the application of circuit analysis techniques, particularly Kirchhoff's Laws and symmetry considerations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various methods for solving the problem, including the use of Kirchhoff's Laws and the recognition of symmetry in the circuit. Some express interest in alternative approaches and question the implications of differing resistor values on the symmetry.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some suggest that fewer equations may be needed due to symmetry, while others note the complications introduced by having resistors of different values. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive ideas have been shared.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, particularly in relation to the symmetry of the circuit and the potential variations in resistor values. The original poster indicates familiarity with solving the problem but seeks broader insights.

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Homework Statement


Asymmetrical Cube - Determine the equivalent resistance between points A and C’ of the circuit below.
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Homework Equations



U = R.i

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This problem was my professor that created. I know how to solve it, but I would like to know if other people have a better idea how to solve it. I tried to use Kirchhoff's Laws and I found 6 equations and was a bit complicate to find the final answer. I think it's a good challenge.
The answer is:

$$\frac{1}{4} \left(R_1+R_2+R_3+\frac{1}{R_1^{-1}+R_2^{-1}+R_3^{-1}} \right)$$
 
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3 equations are sufficient, as the cube still has a symmetry. If you add the potential of opposite points in the cube, you always get the same value.

I like the result.
 
The easy way is to recognize that, by symmetry, the voltage at the three corners connecting A by one resistor each is the same. Similarly, the voltage at the three corners connecting C' by one resistor each is the same.

Nodes of equal voltage can be shorted together without affecting the circuit. This degenerates the cube into three parallel sections connected in series:
Requiv = R1||R2||R3 + R1||R1||R2||R2||R3||R3 + R1||R2||R3.
No KCL or KVL equations needed!
 
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rude man said:
The easy way is to recognize that, by symmetry, the voltage at the three corners connecting A by one resistor each is the same. Similarly, the voltage at the three corners connecting C' by one resistor each is the same.

Nodes of equal voltage can be shorted together without affecting the circuit. This degenerates the cube into three parallel sections connected in series:
Requiv = R1||R2||R3 + R1||R1||R2||R2||R3||R3 + R1||R2||R3.
No KCL or KVL equations needed!
That symmetry does not exist with different resistors.
 
mfb said:
That symmetry does not exist with different resistors.

Yes, I hadn't noticed the resistors could be of different values. Such an old problem, never seen it with differing values before.
 
Borek said:
Makes me think of http://xkcd.com/356/

OK, but I resent a physicist being worth only 2/3 of a mathematician ... I suppose only 1 point per EE, or less even? :-)
 
My solution:

http://www.luiseduardo.com.br/electricity/electrodynamics/cubeofresistors.htm
 
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