Curve length and very hard integral

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The discussion centers on finding the length of the curve defined by the parametric equations \(\phi(t) = \{(5+\cos(3t))\cos(t), (5+\cos(3t))\sin(t)\}\) for \(t \in [0, 2\pi]\). The length is calculated using the formula \(L_{\phi} = \int_{0}^{2\pi}\sqrt{[x'(t)]^2 + [y'(t)]^2} dt\), leading to the integral \(\int_{0}^{2\pi}\sqrt{(5+\cos(3t))^2 + (-3\sin(3t))^2} dt\). The integral is challenging to solve analytically, with participants suggesting that it may not have a closed form and recommending numeric integration as an alternative.

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Homework Statement



Find the length of the curve:

\phi(t)=\left\{(5+\cos(3t))\cos(t), (5+\cos(3t))\sin(t) \right\}\mbox{ with } t\in [0, 2\pi]

Homework Equations



L_{\phi}= \int_{a}^{b}\sqrt{[x'(t)]^2+ [y'(t)]^2}\qquad (1.1)

Where

x(t)= (5+\cos(3t))\cos(t)

y(t)= (5+\cos(3t))\sin(t)

a= 0\qquad b= 2\pi


The Attempt at a Solution




Ok, i noticed that \phi(t) is in this form:

\phi(t)=(r(t)\cos(t), r(t)\sin(t))


so it can be expressed in polar form:

r= r(t)\iff r=5+\cos(3t) \quad t\in[0,2\pi]

so:

L_{\phi}=\int_{0}^{2\pi}\sqrt{[r(t)]^2+[r'(t)]^2}=

= \int_{0}^{2\pi}\sqrt{(5+\cos(3t))^2+(-3\sin(3t))^2}dt


but this integral is not so easy to solve :(

What can i do to solve it? I try to use wolfram but it gives me an approximate result.

[Sorry, my English is not so good, forgive me if there are mistakes]
 
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So far I don't see any errors.
Are you sure you need the result in closed form, and you're not allowed to do numeric integration?

Also, are you sure it's not
\phi(t) = \{ 5 + (3 \cos(3t) \cos(t)), 5 + (3 \cos(3t) \sin(t)) \}
 
Thanks for your reply CompuChip :)

I can't use numeric integration, but if you tell that this integral can't be expressed in closed form I'll go to my teacher to check it.
 
I'm not sure there is no clever substitution that will do the trick. But there is no immediately obvious one; and if the best Wolfram Alpha does is also give you a numeric answer, that's a pretty strong hint that there is no "nice" form.
 
Yes, you are right, i have the same feeling. Thank you for your time!
 

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