Curve with ever increasing radius

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The discussion revolves around identifying a specific type of curve that starts with a smaller radius and transitions into an ever-increasing radius, eventually resembling a straight line. The context includes references to its use in art deco design and potential applications in astronomy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is seeking the name of a curve that begins with a lesser radius and expands to an almost straight line, commonly seen in art deco design.
  • Another participant suggests the possibility of the curve being a spiral.
  • A different participant clarifies that the desired curve can exist in one dimension or not, describing it as starting like a spiral but eventually opening up to a larger radius, becoming nearly imperceptible as it progresses.
  • Links to external resources are provided for further exploration of curves that might fit the description.
  • One participant proposes specific types of spirals, including the hyperbolic spiral, logarithmic spiral, and parabolic spiral, discussing their characteristics and potential relevance to the original query.
  • There is mention of the clothoid or Euler-Cornu spiral as a possible confusion with the hyperbolic spiral.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on which specific curve fits the description, with no consensus reached on a single name or type of curve. Multiple competing models are presented, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the description of the curve may depend on specific definitions and interpretations, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the characteristics of the proposed spirals.

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Cannot remember the name of a curve that begins with a lesser radius and tangents off into an ever increasing radius until it is almost a straight line.

Very commonly used in art deco design.

Thanks for your help.
 
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Come on, some one has to know the name

You see it on the more complex mechanical drawing templates, which I don't have.
 
Are you thinking of a spiral?
 
No, the curve I want can be on a plane(one dimension)

or not and this site won't let me draw it to show it to you. It starts like a spiral with a tighter curve but the second curve swings open eventually to almost a straight line as it progresses to infinity(becoming an nearly imperceptible curve as it progresses away from the first curve due its much larger and ever increasing radius). Perhaps I should ask the physics folks as this curve is commonly seen in astronomy.
 
Which spiral?

He might mean the "hyperbolic spiral" http://mathworld.wolfram.com/HyperbolicSpiral.html which in polar coordinates has the equation r \, \theta = a, and which is asymptotic to y=a. But if so, "begins with a lesser radius" doesn't sound right.

The more familiar logarithmic spiral http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LogarithmicSpiral.html r = \exp(a \, \theta) has no such asymptote, and has the property that the curve intersects each ray infinitely often but makes the same angle each time it intersects a given ray.

As for "commonly seen in astronomy", I guess he might mean the "parabolic spiral" http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FermatsSpiral.html (r-a)^2 = 4 a \, k \, \theta, which to some eyes vaguely resembles the arm of a spiral galaxy (but physicists know that these "arms" are to some extent optical illusions).

Finally, it is possible he is confusing the clothoid or "Euler-Cornu spiral" http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CornuSpiral.html with the hyperbolic spiral.
 
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