Damnit I am terrible at Partial Fractions

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The problem involves solving a second-order differential equation using Laplace transforms, specifically the equation y'' + 4y' = sin(3t) with initial conditions y(0) = 0 and y'(0) = 0. The discussion centers around the application of partial fraction decomposition in the context of Laplace transforms.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the Laplace transform and the subsequent partial fraction decomposition. There are questions regarding the correct form of the partial fractions, particularly concerning the notation and the presence of 's' in the numerators. Some participants express uncertainty about how to solve for coefficients A and B without extensive distribution.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the partial fraction decomposition. Some have provided partial expressions for Y(s) and are questioning the simplification process. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach to take for solving the coefficients.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of dealing with multiple irreducible quadratics in the partial fraction decomposition, and there is a mention of potential constraints related to the methods they are familiar with.

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Homework Statement



Solve y"+4y'=sin 3t subject to y(0)=y'(0)=0 using Laplace Transform




The Attempt at a Solution



So I got:

[tex]s^2Y(s)-sy(0)-y'(0)+4[sY(s)-y(0)]=\frac{3}{s^2+9}[/tex]

[tex]\Rightarrow Y(s)=\frac{3}{(s^2+9)(s^2+4)}[/tex]

Now it looks like two irreducible quadratics, which I know should not be too bad, but I have never dealt with more than one.

Now am I correct to say that

[tex]\frac{3}{(s^2+9)(s^2+4)}=\frac{Ax+B}{s^2+9}+\frac{Cx+D}{s^2+4}[/tex]

This is where I think I have the problem... the notation.

Thanks!
 
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Given this transform:

[tex]s^2Y(s)-sy(0)-y'(0)+4[sY(s)-y(0)]=\frac{3}{s^2+9}[/tex] ,

shouldn't this be

[tex]\Rightarrow Y(s)=\frac{3}{(s^2+9)(s^2+4*s*)}[/tex]


Also, when you go to solve the partial fractions, you want to have 's' in the numerators:

[tex]\frac{3}{(s^2+9)(s^2+4s)}=\frac{As+B}{s^2+9}+...[/tex][/QUOTE]
 
Oh crap...

Yes, so I get:

[tex]\frac{As+B}{s^2+9}+\frac{C}{s}+\frac{D}{s+4}[/tex]

Thanks! !
 
Saladsamurai said:
Oh crap...

Yes, so I get:

[tex]\frac{As+B}{s^2+9}+\frac{C}{s}+\frac{D}{s+4}[/tex]

Thanks! !


Anyone know of a quick way to do this? I let s=0 and -4 to solve for C and D... but what about A and B? Do I have to distribute this whole mess out? Or is there a more expedient way?
 
Guess not.

So now I have

[tex]Y(s)=\frac{-4/75s-3/25}{s^2+9}+\frac{1}{12s}+\frac{3}{100(s+4)}[/tex]

How do I simplify the 1st term?

I can see that it looks like cosine. But...How do I get rid of all the crap?

Hmm I guess I could...Oh! Break it up! I think that will work!
 

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