Dear EE'S I - sizing electromagnets

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This discussion focuses on the sizing of electromagnets to produce identical magnetic fields and forces despite variations in physical dimensions. The key formula referenced is B = unl, indicating that the magnetic field strength (B) can be manipulated by adjusting the number of turns (n) and the current (I) flowing through the wire. The user seeks to create a larger electromagnet (Y) that matches the magnetic performance of a smaller one (X) while managing power constraints. The suggestion to use the free simulator 'vizimag' is highlighted as a practical tool for visualizing and calculating magnetic forces.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of electromagnetism principles, specifically the relationship between magnetic field strength and coil parameters.
  • Familiarity with the formula B = unl for calculating magnetic fields.
  • Basic knowledge of electrical circuits, particularly current flow and resistance.
  • Experience with simulation tools, specifically 'vizimag' for modeling electromagnet behavior.
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  • Research how to manipulate the number of turns and current to achieve desired magnetic fields in electromagnets.
  • Explore the capabilities of 'vizimag' for simulating different electromagnet configurations.
  • Study the effects of core material on electromagnet performance and efficiency.
  • Investigate power supply options to support larger electromagnet designs without compromising performance.
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Electrical engineers, hobbyists in electromagnet design, and anyone interested in optimizing electromagnet performance for specific applications.

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Dear EE'S! I need help -- sizing electromagnets

Is it possibile to built different electromagnet's sizes, that can produce the same magnetic field and forces(e.g attraction/repulsion)?
If so how can I do that? By following this law: B = unl
By controlling the number of turns or the amount of current flowing in, I can do that?
 
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The reason, is that I'd like to expand the electromagnet's area without changing the magnetic field or the forces that I was able to get from my frist electromagnet X.
I want to build electromagnet Y that is larger and equally the same as X interms of the magnetic field and forces.

Since I'm only increasing the physical size of the electromagnet's area/w x h would that require more input?(I have a limited power source!).
 
I would recommend trying out your re-scaling using a simulator. Search for 'vizimag', it's free and relatively easy to use. It will also calculate magnetic forces, which is not a simple problem.
 
Ow I forgot to say!
That I'm just increasing the area of the core. So the electromagnet would be bigger.
I guess that the number of turns would decrease, the current would stay the same and its possibile to do?
 
Your question is not clear.
If you provide more information and maybe some sketches, someone may be able to help you.
 

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