Deceleration time for studded snow tires

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2ad=v^2
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m=1/a? mass is inversely related to acceleration, I believe that...but m=1/a, not necessarily.
 
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BvU said:
Energy. The kinetic energy from the moving car is dissipated by the friction force the road exerts on the tyres.

Really? I just rediscovered the "kinematics equations" about a month ago. They are a godsend for idiots like myself.

if [tex]v_0^2 = 0[/tex]
then the following kinematic equation
[tex]v^2 = v_0^2 + 2 a \Delta x[/tex]
reduces to
[tex]v^2 = 2 a \Delta x[/tex]
which rearranged becomes
[tex]\Delta x = v^2 / 2 a[/tex]

hmmmm... kinetic energy:
[tex]ke = 1/2 m v^2[/tex]
f = m a --> m = f / a
therefore
[tex]ke = 1/2 (f/a) v^2 = f v^2 / 2a[/tex]
and
[tex]W = \Delta ke = fd[/tex]
rearranged yields
f=ke/d
and since ke_f = 0
we get
[tex]ke = ( ke/d ) v^2 / (2a)[/tex]
multiplying both sides by d/ke yields, once again
[tex]d = v^2 / 2a[/tex]

Ha! That works too. Thanks! :smile:

[edit: Why do I always catch my errors after pushing the post button...:redface:]
 
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Heidi Henkel said:
Energy is not part of that equation.
That confused the heck out of me too! But I know from experience, that they don't give out Homework Helper badges to just anyone.
 
It's not really rocket science... (which itself is rather overrated in my opinion :smile: ) and a badge (or a PhD, for that matter) is no guarantee against stupidities.

You can check wikipedia or hyperphysics for the formulas.

Interesting reading, this 2002 pdf. I notice Table 5 and table 6 show big differerences in deceleration/acceleration.
Table 5:
If we look at the snow ones, the deceleration is around $${ (11 {\rm\ m/s}) ^2\over 2 \times (20 {\rm \ m})} \approx 3 {\rm \ m/s^2} $$ using this $$ {1\over 2} mv_{\rm end}^2 - {1\over 2} mv_0^2 = F_{\rm friction} \times d_s = - ma\times d_s$$ energy dissipation equation :wink:. That is pretty good !
The bare pavement ones are plain excellent : ##\approx 12 {\rm \ m/s^2} ## ! Hurray for ABS (you did notice that in the text ?)

(question: the 20 feet skid marks in the snow - were they from a vehicle with ABS ? What tyres did it have ?)

Table 6:
Even easier to calculate acceleration: a mere ##\approx 1.2 {\rm \ m/s^2} ## ! No traction control, apparently ? (the opposite of ABS).

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I am puzzled about table 12: much more deceleration, and no explanation in the text. Makes one suspect that friction is better at higer speeds...

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