Decent paper for submission to a journal?

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The discussion revolves around the criteria and considerations for determining when an undergraduate mathematics paper is ready for submission to a journal. Participants explore the subjective nature of assessing the quality and originality of their work, as well as the importance of peer feedback and familiarity with the target journal.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that having friends review the paper can help gauge its interest and quality before submission.
  • There is a concern about the fear of ridicule when submitting work that may not meet high standards, particularly if it does not address significant problems in the field.
  • One participant emphasizes that understanding when a paper is interesting is part of the educational process.
  • It is noted that undergraduates typically rely on mentors or supervisors to help determine the value of their work and guide them through the submission process.
  • Participants mention that the paper should have a novel component and be of interest to the scientific community, which requires regular reading of the target journal.
  • There is a request for information on undergraduate journals that are more accessible for submissions, particularly those with less stringent acceptance criteria.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the criteria for submission readiness, with no consensus on a definitive approach. Some emphasize peer feedback, while others highlight the role of mentors and familiarity with the journal.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the process of determining publishable material can change as research progresses, and that expectations may evolve over time.

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I was wondering how do you know when you have a, what i will call, somewhat 'decent' paper to submit to an undergraduate mathematics journal for publishing?
 
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sutupidmath said:
I was wondering how do you know when you have a, what i will call, somewhat 'decent' paper to submit to an undergraduate mathematics journal for publishing?

Have your friends look at it, and if they think it's interesting then submit it.
 
twofish-quant said:
Have your friends look at it, and if they think it's interesting then submit it.

Not yet! I will actually have a presentation in a few days, since i am still working on it.

But it just occurred to me that, unless you cracked one of the unsolved problems or something along those lines, how do people generally decide that their work is good enough to submitted to a journal. I personally wouldn't want to submitt something and get ridiculed about it, so to speak.

My work is nothing fancy, nevertheless i believe that to some extent and in some sense, i would add, is rather original. However, i admit that besides the fact that to some degree it might be interesting for its own sake, there is nothing else to it.
 
sutupidmath said:
But it just occurred to me that, unless you cracked one of the unsolved problems or something along those lines, how do people generally decide that their work is good enough to submitted to a journal.

You know when you know. Figuring out when you have something interesting is part of your education.

I personally wouldn't want to submitt something and get ridiculed about it, so to speak.

That's why you should show it to a few friends first. If they can't see an embarrassing problem, then chances are that no one else will either. One thing in science and mathematics is to submit stuff that is "interesting". It's OK to be wrong if you are wrong in a new and creative way.
 
Are you reading the journal that you plan to submit to? If so, you'll know if your paper "fits in" or not.

If not, why not?
 
It's not too common for undergraduates to write and submit a paper to a journal alone. Usually you rely on a mentor or supervisor to guide your project.

If done properly, as soon as you seriously start putting time into a project (beyond preliminary background reading and the brainstorming phase), you should define what you expect to be publishable material. Of course, this changes. It's research and things don't always go the way you expect, but part of project planning is to have a vague idea of where you're going.

As an undergrad, you usually have a mentor or supervisor who can tell you at what point you have something of value. Then, once you move through the process a few times, you'll get an idea of what constitutes publishable material.

Some general rules though, are that the material needs to have a novel component to it, and it has to be of interest to the scientific community (and specifically the readership of the journal). To gauge this, you need to read the journal on a regular basis.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Are you reading the journal that you plan to submit to? If so, you'll know if your paper "fits in" or not.

Choppy said:
To gauge this, you need to read the journal on a regular basis.
Great advide! Great advice, indeed!

Thanks for your replies.

Btw, where could i find a list of undergraduate journals. I tried to google a few, but i guess what i am aksing is of some journals that are not notorious for turning down peoples work. In other words, journals that do not have their standards too high.
 

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