Decomposition into irreps of compact Lie group

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The discussion revolves around the decomposition of representations of compact Lie groups, specifically focusing on the character inner product and its application to the group SO(3). Participants explore the generalization of character inner products from finite groups to compact Lie groups and seek insights into the specific case of SO(3), including the parametrization of conjugacy classes and the necessary functions for integration.

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  • One participant describes the character inner product for finite groups and proposes a generalization to compact Lie groups, presenting mathematical expressions for both cases.
  • Another participant suggests the Weyl integration formula as a potential solution for the integration problem related to SO(3).
  • One participant shares a specific integral formula related to SU(2) and notes its relevance, despite the source being in German.
  • There is a discussion about the correct mapping from SU(2) to SO(3), with one participant identifying a potential error in using the function ##\sin^2(\theta)## instead of ##\sin^2(\theta/2)##, which leads to different results for the representation counts.
  • Another participant confirms that using ##\sin^2(\theta/2)## yields the expected results for the trivial representation and for the representation ##\operatorname{Sym}^2(\operatorname{Sym}^2 V)##.

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Participants express differing views on the correct function to use in the integration process, with some uncertainty about the mapping from SU(2) to SO(3). There is no consensus on a single approach, as participants explore different mathematical formulations and their implications.

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Limitations include potential misunderstandings regarding the mapping between SU(2) and SO(3) and the dependence on the specific forms of the functions used in the integrals. The discussion reflects ongoing exploration rather than settled conclusions.

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When decomposing a representation ##\rho## of a finite group ##G## into irreducible representations, we can find the number of times the representation contains a particular irrep ##\rho_0## through the character inner product
$$
\langle \chi, \chi_0\rangle = \frac{1}{|G|} \sum_{g\in G} \chi(g) \chi_0(g)^*$$
where ##\chi## and ##\chi_0## are the characters of ##\rho## and ##\rho_0##, respectively. Since all group elements in the same conjugacy class have the same characters, this may be rewritten as
$$
\langle \chi, \chi_0\rangle = \frac{1}{|G|} \sum_{C \in [G]} n(C) \chi(C) \chi_0(C)^*,
$$
where ##[G]## is the set of conjugacy classes of ##G## and ##n(C)## is the number of elements in ##C##.

This should generalise to compact Lie groups with the character inner product given by
$$
\langle \chi, \chi_0\rangle = \frac{1}{V_G} \int_{g\in G} \chi(g) \chi_0(g)^* d\mu_G
$$
where ##V_G = \int_{g\in G}d\mu_G## and ##d\mu_G## is the Haar measure on ##G##. The corresponding expression on the conjugacy class level should be
$$
\langle \chi, \chi_0\rangle = \frac{1}{V_G} \int_{C\in [G]} \chi(C) \chi_0(C)^* d\mu_{[G]}
$$
with ##d\mu_{[G]}## being a measure on the conjugacy classes determined by integrating the Haar measure over each conjugacy class. Right?

My particular problem is doing this for ##SO(3)##. More explicitly, the conjugacy classes of ##SO(3)## should be parametrised by the rotation angle ##\theta## (with the conjugate elements being rotations around different axis by the same ##\theta##). I am especially looking for the function ##f(\theta)## such that
$$
\langle \chi, \chi_0\rangle = \frac{1}{V_G} \int_{0}^\pi \chi(\theta) \chi_0(\theta)^* f(\theta) d\theta.$$

Any insights?
 
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fresh_42 said:
I have found the formula
$$
\int_{\operatorname{SU}(2)}f(\theta)\,d\theta = \dfrac{2}{\pi}\int_0^\pi (f\circ e)(t)\sin^2(t)\,dt
$$
including a proof, but in German. Maybe it helps anyway.

Source: https://wwwold.mathematik.tu-dortmund.de/~lschwach/SS10/Bachelor-Seminar/Averim.pdf
I think I found my issue. I was trying ##\sin^2(\theta)##, but when mapping from SU(2) to SO(3), the ##t## here is actually ##\theta/2##?

Using ##\sin^2(\theta)## I obtained that the fundamental representation should contain the trivial one once, which would be absurd. Using ##\sin^2(\theta/2)## gives zero as expected.

It also gives the correct result (2) for the representation ##\operatorname{Sym}^2(\operatorname{Sym}^2 V)## (with ##V## being the fundamental representation), which is what I was really looking for.
 

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