Defining Functions as Sums of Series

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The discussion revolves around the definition of functions, particularly Bessel functions, as sums of series in the context of mathematical physics and chemistry. Participants explore the differences between these functions and basic functions typically encountered in calculus, questioning whether all functions can be expressed as sums of series.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that many functions can be expressed as infinite sums, such as Taylor series, but question the distinction for functions like Bessel functions.
  • Others argue that Bessel functions cannot be represented solely by elementary functions, highlighting that they can only be expressed as infinite sums or integrals of elementary functions.
  • A participant suggests that the distinction may lie in the nature of the functions, with Bessel functions being classified as non-elementary.
  • One participant clarifies that the term "sum of series" refers specifically to an infinite series, emphasizing the potential for misinterpretation in the original statement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of the distinction between functions defined as sums of series and those that can be expressed as such. No consensus is reached on the exact nature of this distinction.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in terminology, such as the interpretation of "sum of series" versus "infinite series." There is also uncertainty regarding the classification of functions as elementary or non-elementary.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students and educators in calculus and mathematical physics, particularly those exploring the nature of special functions and their definitions.

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My Calculus 2 teacher's lecture slides say:

Many of the functions that arise in mathematical physics and chemistry, such as Bessel functions, are defined as sums of series.

I was just wondering how this was different from the basic functions that we've already worked with. Are they not defined as sums of series as well? If not, can they be?
 
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You can write many (most?) functions as an infinite sum, i.e. a Taylor series. I'm not sure entirely what the distinction is, but Bessel functions, for instance, cannot be written in terms of only elementary functions. They can be written as infinite sums or as integrals of elementary functions, but not with a straightforward combination of elementary functions. I suppose this is what differentiates a function that is "defined" as an infinite sum versus one that can simply be written as an infinite sum.

Of course, I'd like to hear what others say about this.

To me, though, I imagine the purpose of the notes was to express that sum functions can only be written as a sum, as opposed to dealing with the fact that most functions can be written as a sum.
 
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I also think like @axmls . What they probably try to convey is that functions like the Bessel functions are not elementary functions.
 
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Drakkith said:
Many of the functions that arise in mathematical physics and chemistry, such as Bessel functions, are defined as sums of series.
Just to clarify, a function as mentioned in the quote is a sum with an infinite number of terms; i.e., an infinite series.

As written, the sentence might be interpreted to say that such a function could be a sum of series, while a series is already an infinite sum.
 
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Alright. Thanks for the comments all!
 

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