Definite integral over random interval

In summary, the conversation discusses solving for a definite integral and the pdf of a given function using the fundamental theorem of calculus. The approach involves defining a cdf and using the Dirac delta function to evaluate the integral. The pdf of the given function can be found by taking the marginal of the joint pdf, taking into account the two possible cases for evaluating the integral.
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benjaminmar8
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Hi, all,

assuming a and b are random variables and their pdf f(a) and f(b) are known. then, how do I solve for the definite integral given as [tex]v=\int\limits_{a}^{b} g(x) dx[/tex], where g(x) is a function of x? or, how do I solve the pdf of v?

Thanks a lot..
 
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I think the answer is "use the fundamental theorem of calculus." Operationally, suppose each of a and b is Bernoulli with probabilities p and q: Pr[a = a1] = 1 - Pr[a = a2] = p, Pr[b = b1] = 1 - Pr[b = b2] = q.

Then:
v = G[b1] - G[a1] with prob = pq,
v = G[b2] - G[a1] with prob. p(1-q)
v = G[b1] - G[a2] with prob. (1-p)q
v = G[b2] - G[a2] with prob (1-p)(1-q)

where "the integral of g from a to b" = G - G[a].
 
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Another approach is to first work out the cdf P[v<=y]. To do this (assuming a and b are independent) it might be helpful to sketch the 2d region of points (a,b) where G-G[a]<=y.
 
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If we define that
[tex]y(a,b)=\int\limits_{b=-\infty}^{\infty} \int\limits_{a}^{b} g(x) dx[/tex]
we can state the pdf over the joint space of variables a, b and v as
[tex]f(a,b,v) = \delta\left(v-y(a,b)\right)f(a)f(b)[/tex]
where [itex]\delta[/itex] is the Dirac delta function.

The pdf [itex]f(v)[/itex] of v is then the marginal of [itex]f(a,b,v)[/itex] with respect to a and b
[tex]f(v) = \int\limits_{a=-\infty}^{\infty} \int\limits_{b=-\infty}^{\infty} \delta\left(v-y(a,b)\right) f(a)f(b) db da[/tex]


The integral of g(x) can as stated above be evaluated using its primitive G(x):
[tex]\int\limits_{a}^{b} g(x) dx = G(b)-G(a) \quad \texttt{if} \quad b \geq a[/tex],
[tex]\int\limits_{a}^{b} g(x) dx = G(a)-G(b) \quad\texttt{if} \quad a \geq b[/tex]

We thus need to account for the two possible cases:
[tex]
f(v) =
\int\limits_{a=-\infty}^{\infty} \int\limits_{b=-\infty}^{a}
\delta\left(v-G(a)+G(b)\right)
f(a)f(b) db da
+\int\limits_{a=-\infty}^{\infty} \int\limits_{b=a}^{\infty}
\delta\left(v-G(b)+G(a)\right)
f(a)f(b) db da
[/tex]
 
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1. What is a definite integral over a random interval?

A definite integral over a random interval is a mathematical concept that involves finding the area under a curve within a specific range of values. The interval is considered random because it can be any range of values, rather than a fixed set of numbers.

2. How is a definite integral over a random interval different from a regular definite integral?

The main difference between a definite integral over a random interval and a regular definite integral is the range of values used. In a regular definite integral, the interval is fixed and known, while in a definite integral over a random interval, the interval can vary and is not predetermined.

3. What is the purpose of using a definite integral over a random interval?

The purpose of using a definite integral over a random interval is to calculate the total area under a curve within a specific range of values. This can be useful in various fields such as physics, economics, and engineering, where finding the total amount of a changing quantity is important.

4. How do you calculate a definite integral over a random interval?

To calculate a definite integral over a random interval, you first need to determine the function that represents the curve. Then, you can use various methods such as the Riemann sum or the fundamental theorem of calculus to find the area under the curve within the given interval.

5. Can a definite integral over a random interval have a negative value?

Yes, a definite integral over a random interval can have a negative value. This can occur when the function being integrated has negative values within the given interval, or when the area under the curve below the x-axis is greater than the area above the x-axis.

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