Definite Integration using U-Substitution

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a definite integral using u-substitution, specifically the integral \(\int^{2}_{0}\frac{dx}{(2x-3)^2}\). Participants are exploring the implications of the integrand being undefined at a certain point within the integration limits.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the validity of the original integral setup and the implications of the integrand being undefined at \(x = 1.5\). There is an exploration of how this affects the existence of the definite integral. Some participants question whether similar situations in different integrals lead to the same conclusions about undefined behavior.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with participants providing feedback on each other's reasoning. There is recognition of the undefined nature of the integrand at a specific point, and some participants are seeking clarification on how to approach similar problems in the future.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the integrand is undefined at \(x = 1.5\), which raises questions about the existence of the definite integral. There is also mention of a different integral that appears to have a similar structure but is evaluated over a different interval.

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Hi,
I'm I on the right track here?

Homework Statement


Evaluate the definite integral, if it exists


Homework Equations


\int^{2}_{0}\stackrel{dx/}{(2x-3)^2}


The Attempt at a Solution


Let u = 2x-3

du = 2dx

1/2du = dx

1/2\int^{2}_{0}\stackrel{du/}{u^2}

going back to our original u substitution: u = 2x - 3

= 2(0) - 3 = -3
= 2(2) - 3 = 1

1/2\int^{-3}_{1}\stackrel{du/}{u^2}

1/2\int^{-3}_{1}\stackrel{du/}{(u^3)/3}

(1/6) x du/(u)^3

[(1/6) x du/(1)^3] - [(1/6) x du/(-3)^3]

[(1/6) x du] - [(1/6) x du/(-27)]
 
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01010011 said:
Hi,
I'm I on the right track here?
No, if I understand what you're trying to integrate. That stackrel command is not helpful. frac{}{} is what you should use for rational expressions.
01010011 said:

Homework Statement


Evaluate the definite integral, if it exists


Homework Equations


\int^{2}_{0}\stackrel{dx/}{(2x-3)^2}


The Attempt at a Solution


Let u = 2x-3

du = 2dx

1/2du = dx

1/2\int^{2}_{0}\stackrel{du/}{u^2}

going back to our original u substitution: u = 2x - 3

= 2(0) - 3 = -3
= 2(2) - 3 = 1

1/2\int^{-3}_{1}\stackrel{du/}{u^2}

1/2\int^{-3}_{1}\stackrel{du/}{(u^3)/3}

(1/6) x du/(u)^3

[(1/6) x du/(1)^3] - [(1/6) x du/(-3)^3]

[(1/6) x du] - [(1/6) x du/(-27)]

Is this the integral?
\int_0^{2}\frac{dx}{(2x-3)^2}

It's a major problem that the integrand is undefined at x = 1.5.
 
Mark44 said:
Is this the integral?
\int_0^{2}\frac{dx}{(2x-3)^2}
It's a major problem that the integrand is undefined at x = 1.5.

Yes this is the correct problem I have to work out.
Ok, correct me if I am wrong but once there is a possibility of getting an undefined answer (because of the possibility of dividing by 0) then I can easily say that the difinite integral does not exist because it can't be defined if x = 1.5?

So therefore, if x is not 1.5, then the definite integral does exist. So how do I proceed with this question then? Where did I go wrong with my attempted answer?
 
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Just say that this definite integral doesn't exist because the integrand is undefined at x = 1.5.
 
Mark44 said:
Just say that this definite integral doesn't exist because the integrand is undefined at x = 1.5.

Ok, anytime I have a quotient like that, I'll check for this, thanks.
 
@Mark44,

On second thought, I was looking at the following question in the book:

Homework Statement


Evaluate \int\stackrel{2}{1}\frac{dx}{(3-5x)^{2}}

and they gave the answer as \frac{1}{14}

My question is, isn't this the same situation where some number would make this also undefined? Or is the question asking something different?
 
How is 1/(3-5x)^2 in any way undefined on the interval [1,2]? Just integrate it.
 
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Dick said:
How is 1/(3-5x)^2 in any way undefined on the interval [1,2]? Just integrate it.
Ok, I think I finally get it now, thanks
 

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