Derivation of energy-momentum tensor in "QFT and the SM" by Schwartz

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The discussion revolves around a specific step in the derivation of the energy-momentum tensor as presented in "QFT and the SM" by Schwartz. Participants are examining the notation and conventions used in the text, particularly regarding the contraction of derivatives and the use of the metric tensor.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the contraction of ##\partial_\nu \mathcal L## under ##\partial_\mu## results in ##g_{\mu \nu} \mathcal L## instead of ##\delta_{\mu \nu} \mathcal L##.
  • Another participant suggests that there is a typo in equation (3.34) and argues that it should use ##\delta^{\mu}_{\nu}## instead of ##g_{\mu\nu}##.
  • A third participant reiterates the previous point about the potential typo and explains that the derivative's lower index implies it acts like an upper index, supporting the use of the Kronecker delta.
  • One participant warns about Schwartz's unconventional approach to contracting Lorentz tensors, noting that it can lead to ambiguous expressions and suggesting that readers consult additional resources to clarify these issues.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the correct notation in equation (3.34), with some asserting a typo while others caution about the conventions used in the text. The discussion remains unresolved as no consensus is reached on the correct interpretation.

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Participants highlight the potential for ambiguity in Schwartz's notation and the importance of understanding the positioning of tensor indices. There is an acknowledgment of the possibility of typos in the text, which adds to the complexity of the discussion.

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How the contraction leads to ##g_{\mu \nu}## rather than ##\delta_{\mu \nu}##?
My question is about this step in the derivation:
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When the ##\partial_\nu \mathcal L## in 3.33 moves under the ##\partial_\mu## in 3.34 and gets contracted, I'd expect it to become ##\delta_{\mu \nu} \mathcal L##. Why is it rather ##g_{\mu \nu} \mathcal L## in the 3.34?
(In this text, ##g_{\mu \nu}=\eta_{\mu \nu}##)
 
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I think that eq.(3.34) contains a typo and you're (nearly) correct: in standard tensor notation, the ##g_{\mu\nu}## in (3.34) should actually be ##\delta^{\mu}_{\nu}##.
 
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renormalize said:
I think that eq.(3.34) contains a typo and you're (nearly) correct: in standard tensor notation, the ##g_{\mu\nu}## in (3.34) should actually be ##\delta^{\mu}_{\nu}##.
Yes. The derivative has a lower mu in the denominator and hence acts like an upper index. This means the mu on the metric should also be upper, making it a kronecker delta.
 
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Be careful when using this book as Schwartz employs a strange convention for contracting Lorentz tensors - namely, he ignores the positioning of the tensor indices (i.e., whether they are "upper" or "lower" indices), as he explains in this passage:

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With this convention you get ambiguous expressions such as ##\partial_\mu (g_{\mu\nu} \mathcal{L})##, which you've encountered here, and which are impossible to interpret as they stand. Besides, there is always the possibility of there being a typo in a particular formula. All this can lead to unnecessary frustration, so it is best that you supplement the Schwartz's text with other books on QFT that you can always consult. Never let a textbook gaslight you while studying! :-p
 
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