Derivation of Tangential Acceleration in Non-Uniform Circular Motion

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a block sliding inside a hoop, focusing on the derivation of tangential acceleration in non-uniform circular motion. The problem involves concepts of friction, tangential acceleration, and the relationship between velocity and time as the block slows down due to friction.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between frictional force and tangential acceleration, with some attempting to derive expressions for both. There is a focus on integrating to find time as the block's speed changes.

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Some participants have provided expressions for the frictional force and tangential acceleration, while others are seeking clarification on the integration process to find the time required for the block to reduce its speed. The conversation reflects varying levels of confidence in solving the problem.

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There is mention of the coefficient of friction and its role in the calculations, as well as the need to integrate over specific limits to find time. Participants are navigating through the implications of their derived equations and assumptions made in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A small block of mass "m" slides on a frictionless horizontal surface as it travels inside of a hoop of radius "R". The coefficient of friction between the block and the wall is "u", therefore, the speed of the block decreases. In terms of "m", "R", "u", and "v" (the block's velocity), find expressions for the following.
1. The frictional force on the block: (I believe it is f = (v^(2) * m / R)

2. The block's tangential acceleration (dv/dt). I really need this one.

3. Use the equation from #2 to find the time required to reduce the speed of the block to one-third of its original velocity from its original velocity.

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The Attempt at a Solution



#1 should be "f = (v^(2) * m / R"

#2 All I have so far is #1 solved for "v". "v = sqrt(f * R / m)"

#3 Once I have #2, this will be cake.
 
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drummerteenX said:

Homework Statement


A small block of mass "m" slides on a frictionless horizontal surface as it travels inside of a hoop of radius "R". The coefficient of friction between the block and the wall is "u", therefore, the speed of the block decreases. In terms of "m", "R", "u", and "v" (the block's velocity), find expressions for the following.
1. The frictional force on the block: (I believe it is f = (v^(2) * m / R)

2. The block's tangential acceleration (dv/dt). I really need this one.

3. Use the equation from #2 to find the time required to reduce the speed of the block to one-third of its original velocity from its original velocity.

Homework Equations



N/A

The Attempt at a Solution



#1 should be "f = (v^(2) * m / R"

#2 All I have so far is #1 solved for "v". "v = sqrt(f * R / m)"

#3 Once I have #2, this will be cake.

Welcome to PF.

In one you have ignored the coefficient of friction. Your expression if for the radial force. Frictional force is Normal force * coefficient of friction.

From F = m*a , knowing 1, you can solve immediately for 2.

Since 3 is a piece of cake ... you're all set.
 
Ok, so I solved for a) and b), but c) is not "cake" for me. Can you help me out for where to start solving it?
 
Ok so this is what I get for

a) -u*v^(2)*m/R = F

b)dv/dt = -u*v^(2)/R

If you accept those answers then this is how I would solve c)

dv = (-u*v^(2)/R)dt

dv*R/(-u*v^2)= dt

Integrate both sides. Left integral is from v to 1/3v. Right integral is from 0 to t.

After the integration you get this:

R/(u*v) = t left side still needs to be evaluated on limits of integration so...

R/(u*(v/3)) - R/(u*v) = t

That would be the answer I get.
 

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